Some people want to be inclusive in their language and define woman by gender, and that’s great! Some people like the historical sex-based definition, and that’s fine too. Biological sex is real, and wanting to acknowledge that doesn’t make someone right-wing.
No but it makes you a clown that’s really really really proud of their junior school biology knowledge. Yes, we all know biological sex is real, you’re not a fucking genius with hidden knowledge. So if you feel the need to constantly bring it up, it’s most likely in bad faith and to display your absolute ignorance of anything that requires more than 5th grade reading comprehension.
Sex =/= gender. Psychology and sociology and cultures that make arbitrary bullshit rules are not some “woke librul” plot to turn the frogs gay. The world is bigger than your white christian home town with a population of 200. You are not the “standard” or the “norm”, you’re just ignorant of the fact that other people who do things differently exist.
The same people that feel the need to go around lecturing other grown fucking adults about what they learnt in biology class when they were 8 years old, are the same people that are adamant that blue is for boys and pink is for girls and that everyone must wear a particular shape of clothing based on their genitals. That’s not biology, that’s fucking culture.
The funniest thing about all of this. Is that the people who want to mansplain basic biology to everyone are the most obsessed with gender by a long fucking shot. And the biggest fucking babies and nazis about it. Assigning themselves cute little labels like “alpha” and following clown fucking rules that make a ‘man’, all for the sake of their gender affirming care.
Then they have the god damn fucking nerve to go around lecturing people because they’re too fucking stupid to be any level of self aware, and they’re damn proud of that too.
Agree 100% sex =/= gender and blue/pink are culture, etc. What about where it matters, like sports? If women want sex-specific leagues, should we support them? Do you support the young women that don’t want to play against biologically male players such as AB Hernandez?
Hormone replacement therapy actually changes a lot more than breast size, including muscle mass and bone density.
But let’s be real here. You’re the kind of person that would also complain about a trans person in a chess or COD tournament. And who would accuse cis women of being men because they don’t look woman enough to you.
The funny thing about this conversation is that I wasn’t born yesterday. And what I’ve noticed is that the people who are most concerned about it, are anti-feminist men that hero worship pedos and probably have rape charges in their past, Harry Potter fans that never gave a shit about feminism before, and women like Riley Gaines that came in 5th place and blamed everything on a trans woman that was in the same race.
Not that it’s even as widespread as you seem to think it is. You’re just obsessed with trans people.
It seems you’d really like me to be somebody else, that you can rail against for other opinions. It feels good when you can properly hate someone with moral conviction.
But it’s not that easy. HRT is great for people that need it, but it can’t erase the effects of male puberty. In the case of AB Hernandez, do you think the women have a right to not play against biological males?
You say that and then jump straight to an example of a teenager in high school. Clown. This is why trans kids are given puberty blockers in more enlightened places. So that their teenage puberty doesn’t take hold before they’re old enough for bigger steps. But you probably want to end that too.
It seems you’d really like me to be somebody else, that you can rail against for other opinions. It feels good when you can properly hate someone with moral conviction.
I’m thinking that you’re exactly what I think you are.
I’m confused why you apparently doubt that puberty affects teenagers in high school, but that’s not really relevant in the end.
I mention AB Hernandez because it’s in the news, and the women involved are emphatically expressing that they don’t want to play against biological males. Pick another situation if you want, like Julie Peterson refusing to take the podium in protest after taking second place to someone that has the advantage of male puberty.
The general point is what I’m asking about. Do you agree that women have the right to not compete against biological males, when they’re saying very strongly that they do not want to?
Some people want to be inclusive in their language and define woman by gender, and that’s great! Some people like the historical sex-based definition, and that’s fine too. Biological sex is real, and wanting to acknowledge that doesn’t make someone right-wing.
No but it makes you a clown that’s really really really proud of their junior school biology knowledge. Yes, we all know biological sex is real, you’re not a fucking genius with hidden knowledge. So if you feel the need to constantly bring it up, it’s most likely in bad faith and to display your absolute ignorance of anything that requires more than 5th grade reading comprehension.
Sex =/= gender. Psychology and sociology and cultures that make arbitrary bullshit rules are not some “woke librul” plot to turn the frogs gay. The world is bigger than your white christian home town with a population of 200. You are not the “standard” or the “norm”, you’re just ignorant of the fact that other people who do things differently exist.
The same people that feel the need to go around lecturing other grown fucking adults about what they learnt in biology class when they were 8 years old, are the same people that are adamant that blue is for boys and pink is for girls and that everyone must wear a particular shape of clothing based on their genitals. That’s not biology, that’s fucking culture.
The funniest thing about all of this. Is that the people who want to mansplain basic biology to everyone are the most obsessed with gender by a long fucking shot. And the biggest fucking babies and nazis about it. Assigning themselves cute little labels like “alpha” and following clown fucking rules that make a ‘man’, all for the sake of their gender affirming care.
Then they have the god damn fucking nerve to go around lecturing people because they’re too fucking stupid to be any level of self aware, and they’re damn proud of that too.
Agree 100% sex =/= gender and blue/pink are culture, etc. What about where it matters, like sports? If women want sex-specific leagues, should we support them? Do you support the young women that don’t want to play against biologically male players such as AB Hernandez?
https://www.si.com/high-school/national/california-transgender-athlete-facing-accusations-amid-forfeits-01k6193394kd
Hormone replacement therapy actually changes a lot more than breast size, including muscle mass and bone density.
But let’s be real here. You’re the kind of person that would also complain about a trans person in a chess or COD tournament. And who would accuse cis women of being men because they don’t look woman enough to you.
The funny thing about this conversation is that I wasn’t born yesterday. And what I’ve noticed is that the people who are most concerned about it, are anti-feminist men that hero worship pedos and probably have rape charges in their past, Harry Potter fans that never gave a shit about feminism before, and women like Riley Gaines that came in 5th place and blamed everything on a trans woman that was in the same race.
Not that it’s even as widespread as you seem to think it is. You’re just obsessed with trans people.
It seems you’d really like me to be somebody else, that you can rail against for other opinions. It feels good when you can properly hate someone with moral conviction.
But it’s not that easy. HRT is great for people that need it, but it can’t erase the effects of male puberty. In the case of AB Hernandez, do you think the women have a right to not play against biological males?
You say that and then jump straight to an example of a teenager in high school. Clown. This is why trans kids are given puberty blockers in more enlightened places. So that their teenage puberty doesn’t take hold before they’re old enough for bigger steps. But you probably want to end that too.
I’m thinking that you’re exactly what I think you are.
I’m confused why you apparently doubt that puberty affects teenagers in high school, but that’s not really relevant in the end.
I mention AB Hernandez because it’s in the news, and the women involved are emphatically expressing that they don’t want to play against biological males. Pick another situation if you want, like Julie Peterson refusing to take the podium in protest after taking second place to someone that has the advantage of male puberty.
The general point is what I’m asking about. Do you agree that women have the right to not compete against biological males, when they’re saying very strongly that they do not want to?
Can you read? If you could, you’d probably be less confused.
If it makes it easier, focus on another example then. The actual part that needs answering is this:
Julie Peterson is one concrete example so that’s it’s not just theoretical handwaving. The general question is what’s important though.