• Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Ehh

    I feel like most people that really care about their operating system are more than likely going to build a PC

    Most people buying a pre-built device are like Apple users “It just works”

    I have an expensive PC I built but I’m a console gamer

    I enjoy a comfy couch, big TV, and controller.

    It’s the ease of just hitting a couple buttons and getting to play a game.

    Could I hook my PC to my TV? Yes, but that would require me to move my PC from my desk.

    Also things like controllers. If I hooked my PC to my TV to play something like Overwatch I’d have to play with m/kb people which I would be at a severe disadvantage if I played with a controller.

    Like if Xbox overwatch allowed m/kb (yeah I know people cheat) I’d probably stop playing it.

    It’s the PC gamers that always want consoles to support m/kb. Console gamers do not want to play on m/kb.

    In my mind lack of m/kb is why consoles exist

    People aren’t buying PS/Xbox for a living room PC. They want a console gaming experience

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      2 days ago

      Most people locked out of upgrading from W10 to W11 have never built a computer and will never build a computer. They are liable to throw away their existing computer and purchase a new one. W10 is EOL and W11 has a restrictive list of prerequisites.

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        1 day ago

        I agree with you.

        But my point is someone that bought a W10 pre-built computer is not the person looking at the steam machine saying “Maybe a different operating system would improve my experience”

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          15 hours ago

          They may very well be thinking “steam says this works for everything I own” though, the OS likely isn’t relevant if it still has a browser.

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            14 hours ago

            But what you’re saying is that it is to provide people with an alternative path from windows.

            Even if the steam machine had windows on it, the majority of the same people would buy it.

            My point is very few people are going to buy the steam machine to get away from windows

            “Steam says this works for everything I own” Purchased no matter what.

            Not “I want a new PC without windows, let me try out the new steam machine”

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        1 day ago

        Yes it does but you only get put in a crossplay lobby if your party is mixed.

        On top of going against m/kb players, aim assist for controller is turned off.

        It’s really not that enjoyable and highlights why controllers and m/kb shouldn’t be mixed.

        It’s like talking a snowboard to a ski jump contest. Snowboards are fun and can do a lot of different things than skis. And in a contest where everyone is snowboarding it’s great. But you’ll never win a jumping contest.