So, considering this is Lemmy I’ll clarify. I’m not talking about your neighbor who voted for Trump or your uncle who’s always been a dick. I’m talking about coming in contact with a deep down evil scary human. I’ve only met one that I can think of. When I was 12 or 13 I spent a ton of time at my best friends house. He lived on a big beautiful rural property with his dad, a few brothers and always one or two random dudes. His dad was a good electrician and a biker. So, he always had friends/associates hanging around. So one day I was staying over for a long weekend and we met a new guy his dad was housing for a week or two. Dude was a real full fledged nazi. Had a swastika under his eye and tats all over most of his body. He was from California I guess. He was “working” with my buddies dad for awhile. Anyway, the main interaction I had with him was when he pulled my friend and I in for a sermon. We were going to go hunt squirrels and do rural kid shit. He stopped us outside and had us sit on the porch. Spent about 20 minutes explaining all the things youd imagine a nazi explains. Moslty about catholics, jews and blacks. My friends dad came out after awhile and told him we didn’t need to hear that shit. He sent us away, but, I never forgot the look this dude had in his eyes. It was like the look of complete bordem mixed with extreme anger all the time.

    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      4 hours ago

      I’m not agreeing with nathan from satan up above in his implication of it being fine, but it was normal in undeveloped nations (read: before cell phones or even the ‘car phones’). My friend would repeat the story his father’s generation did in scandinavia: kittens that you didn’t want born were gathered up in a sack, which was tied, and said sack was tossed in a pond or stream. It was relatively simple, didn’t require you to ‘waste’ a bullet, and if you walked away for a while you didn’t have to deal with (in other words, see/hear/comprehend) the horror of what you just did.

    • ryannathans@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      Far better than leaving poisoned baits for random animals to eat that are not the intended target, or traps that cause extreme suffering in the same manner as bear traps, and doesn’t require guns which are very hard to access now

      • Chippys_mittens@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        Well for one, Why do they have to be killed at all? For two, if they do have to be killed, drowing is also a horrific level of fear and suffering. It would be more humane to just hit it in the head with a hammer. But again, why do they HAVE to be killed and why is a geriatric grandmother taking on that responsibility?

        • IronBird@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          look up Australian Cat Plague, if you want to see what happens when you truly let cats just go ham outside “because it’s natural” or whatever reason most people use. they’re little apex predators that kill anything they can get their claws on, if there’s no native predators to control them they will dominate everything smaller than them

          you cannot save them all, no amount of adoption centers would be able to receive the inflow of cats from a proper plague of them. there entire pet industries designed towards selling these animals to people who probably can’t even take care of actual human kids let alone an animal

        • ryannathans@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          Maybe the commenter can tell us

          Feral cats kill an extreme amount of native wildlife here and are essentially the sole cause of extinction for many animals. You cannot rehome feral cats as pets and there’s basically nowhere to take them.

              • Chippys_mittens@lemmy.worldOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                2 days ago

                I’ve had barn/outdoor cats too, so long as they are fixed its a non issue. Is it really better in your area to drown them than try and home them?

                • ryannathans@aussie.zone
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 day ago

                  Usually they are shot here and they wonder off and eventually die of infection or injury some time later

                  These are successive generations of cats breeding in the wild with no human interaction. They cannot be rehomed realistically

                  • Chippys_mittens@lemmy.worldOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    1 day ago

                    I’ve looked into it more and I’m genuinely glad you brought this up. I had no idea what a problem it was in Australia. I read a good bit about it now and recognize the severity. I still dont think drowning is humane, but, killing ferals might be the only option in that situation.

              • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 day ago

                Feral cats are kind of native here (Europe). It is the massive amount of well-fed stray domestic cats that is a problem, AFAIK.