• daggermoon@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Yeah, I just stopped paying attention altogether. The sequel trilogy is worse than the Holiday Special lol. I saw Rogue One and I was bored to tears. The Outlaws game requires an EA account to play. Star Wars is dead to me.

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        15 hours ago

        I like Rogue One, but for the life of me I can’t figure out why people love Rogue One. It’s a decent enough Dirty Dozen riff in a Star Wars Skin Suit, but it has terrible pacing, a story that didn’t particularly need to be told, unengaging leads (rewatch after Andor helps some but not entirely), and too much fan service. It’s nice that it allows some whisps of moral ambiguity into the Rebellion, and it’s absolutely saved by the climactic battle, but I do not get the universal and enthusiastic acclaim.

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Episode 8 is better.

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          I can’t figure out why people love Rogue One.

          On its face, its a good movie. I think what put it over the top was the way in which they folded the final scene so neatly into the opening scene of New Hope.

          it has terrible pacing, a story that didn’t particularly need to be told, unengaging leads (rewatch after Andor helps some but not entirely), and too much fan service

          Eh. Rewatched it recently and I’ll spot that it feels like three shorter films stapled together. But they’re three good movies. I’ll also say that “story that needs to be told” is the absolute wrong philosophy for the Star Wars setting. The show is at its best when its just people bumping around the Galaxy in the shadow of the tentpole events. You could write a Star Wars sitcom that’s just imperial bureaucrats fucking around in the style of The Office and it could be solid gold. Hell, that’s on-and-off what made The Mandalorian so good.

          Lucas made a fun setting full of creative little asides and bits of exotic Sci-Fi art that anyone would peel off and do their own thing with. That’s what makes it so great for video games, TTRPGs, EU novels, comedy sketches, amateur art renditions, cosplay… The franchise is this elaborate sandbox full of fun little toys. Just grabbing a few and swinging them around is fun, whether or not you have the whole history of the extended universe committed to heart.

          Also, incidentally, what makes “We’re doing the Death Star again” so hack. You don’t need to build a new death star when you can just play with the one you’ve already got. Test firing on Jedha is fun. Running around a construction site full of spare Death Star parts is fun. Rescuing an engineer is fun. Getting stuck in a trash compactor on the detention level is fun.

          I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Episode 8 is better.

          I don’t think you really have to choose. You also don’t really need to throw $30M at every episode (or whatever Andor’s budget was) to have fun in the setting. One reason I enjoyed Solo so much was in how it got back to that slumming-it style of Star Wars. The little vinette of Han as an imperial commando trying to survive the trenches of some mudhole was perfect Star Wars material and didn’t require a metric fuckton of CGI to pull off.

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          16 hours ago

          The mandalorian is solid too.

          Up until he gives the dark saber away for no fucking reason at all. That was stupid.

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      18 hours ago

      Lol rogue one is the best star wars movie of this century. Not saying its a good movie, just the best star wars movie