• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    You are looking way too much

    What does this even mean???

    it’s just an observation from a minority looking into popular American and international popular culture.

    Just this phrasing alone indicates not black, and probably not darker in skin tone, otherwise you’d have mentioned it and well, quite frankly, I feel it is much less likely you’d hold the opinions you currently do.

    That’s really not it. Look in the mirror, your insecurities are showing. Just because it is not popular in popular culture does not mean it is niche or insignificant. Reality is not a popularity contest, the only place popularity is important is in regards to general awareness.

    What a mess of a self contradicting attempt at an character attack.

    That implies that you admit it’s a catch all term now, just that it’s inception has been founded on -

    No, no it does not. This is me literally pointing out that when being used in the current context, it was intentionally not a catch all term. That’s literally the entire point of the paragraph you are trying to form a gotcha out of. There is no way for me to read this other than being in obvious bad faith.

    True, but irrelevant in regards to why it has become popular

    This sentence is paradoxical. How could it be true that its irrelevant when its stated that this is its primary draw and goal? You can’t agree and then disagree with those statements. That just doesn’t make sense. They contradict each other. Admitting the first is true, inherently means that it is very much so relevant to how they “became popular” which you still haven’t addressed the criticism of the weal word usage of by the way.

    It came from the people who had a problem with the movements that used the term, but most MAGA members who know the term won’t even know about its history. Hard disagree again.

    They wouldn’t need to know its history to know its meaning. You are literally first admitting that its meaning is exactly as I said, contradicting what you’ve already said earlier in this comment, then, arguing a non sequitur in that somehow them being unaware of the full history of the term means that they aren’t using the term with the meaning you’ve already admitted is the meaning they’re using it with.

    Literally all of your comment has been so self contradictory to this points its verging on absurd.

    I’m starting to believe I am just being trolled by you TheObviousSolution.

    But that also meant they made the term woke popular in popular culture as a result.

    This is you now recognizing that popular and popular in popular culture aare different after previously standing your case on them being the same.

    Who is?

    You are. Thats literally been your point. Your point has literally been that “oh they don’t really know what the word means” with constant streams of contradicting statements following that point, which I think you know has always been false.

    by just

    No, Im not letting you play the “just” game where you pretend what you were actually saying was something different than the clear text exclaimed.

    Literally in this very comment right here, you attempt to find a gotcha, where you say that the definition has changed:

    That implies that you admit it’s a catch all term now

    You said this… right in this comment…

    So how does them making the term so popular that it outs them as bigots work into the term being a dog whistle? Because I’m going to have to say, I don’t think you know what the meaning and use of a dog whistles is either if you are claiming this.

    This point straight up doesn’t make any sense at all.

    1. I called it a fog horn, pointing out the fact that its stretching the limits of what a dog whistle is.

    2. Related to one, and a key element of my point, this matters because it literally only works in that folks that have similar opinions to you, think that the definition is now a catch all rather than the extremely blatant and obvious bigotry it is.

    I have taken some verbal abuse elsewhere in the thread because this also made someone else insecure. In your case, I would say it is provoking something akin to a hyperimmune response.

    This is just an elaborate way of you claiming you’ve “triggered” me, making me pretty certain that you are a troll at this point, but I’ll still leave this comment in the hoptes that at least someone else who reads this gets the logic of why your argument is faulty and helps defend maga members.

    Given the clear bad faith, I don’t forsee future responses being useful to anyone past this point though, as I don’t imagine anyone will be reading past this comment anyways.