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At the first meeting, the Russians presented a set of harsh conditions, effectively demanding Ukraine’s capitulation. This was a nonstarter. But as Moscow’s position on the battlefield continued to deteriorate, its positions at the negotiating table became less demanding. So on March 3 and March 7, the parties held a second and third round of talks […]

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240428/ukraine-rejected-2022-peace-deal-over-russian-language-status--banning-nazism-terms---welt-1118153431.html

Regarding territorial issues, parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Donbass would remain under Russian control

Moscow ostensibly wanted Kiev to slash the size of its army to 85,000 people, while Ukraine insisted on retaining a strength of 250,000.

Edit: Replaced “reporter” with “politician” in the post title

Edit2: Changed title from “microphone cut” to “segment cut short” in the title

  • SwitchyandWitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I am once again begging for actually leftist German politicians instead of people like her with these takes:

    Germany has an issue where “people with a traditional family no longer feel valued and someone who is white, male and heterosexual almost has to apologise for it”.

    The party is also against loosening regulations on legally changing one’s gender; Wagenknecht believes that such a law “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.”

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      Germany has an issue where “people with a traditional family no longer feel valued and someone who is white, male and heterosexual almost has to apologise for it”.

      The value reduction they feel is because they were over valued and over represented in the first place. The only people upset about this fundamentally have a problem with groups outside of this traditional family being represented or existing.

      The party is also against loosening regulations on legally changing one’s gender; Wagenknecht believes that such a law “turns parents and children into guinea pigs for an ideology that only benefits the pharmaceutical lobby.”

      Where is the evidence that the pharmaceutical lobby is responsible for trans people? What fucking nonsense. I doubt you can find a single donation from pharma to any lgbt orgs and it is always lgbt lobbying that has resulting in these changes.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        There are a lot of national socialist apeing as “leftist” who are working with Russia to undermine European democracies.

        Even if you believe Russias position as an antagonist towards NATO is overall good on a geopolitical scale in regards to multipolarism. It doesn’t mean they as a country arent extremely conservative in a cultural sense and nationalist in a political sense. Or that they aren’t supporting far right politicians all over the world as it benefits them in the long run.

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          There are a lot of national socialist apeing as “leftist” who are working with Russia to undermine European democracies.

          Why are you using “national socialist” instead of nazi? Every single time I see someone doing this they have absurd brainworms that the nazis were socialists, or they’re a person who chooses to use it because they like to promote the myth or to associate socialism with nazism to smear actual socialists. Seeing you phrase yourself this way is an immediate red flag to me.

          Which “leftists” are you referring to that are actually nazis just apeing as “leftists”? Give me something concrete, what party? What organisations are you referring to? Who? This vagueness is deeply suspicious to me. It’s the kind of thing someone does when they don’t want to be properly refuted.

          European democracies

          Bourgeoise democracy only represents the bourgeoisie. It does not represent the wishes of the proletariat and is therefore not particularly democratic. Calling them democracies without this disclaimer makes me assume you are a neoliberal.

          • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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            national socialist" instead of nazi? Every single time I see someone doing this they have absurd brainworms that the nazis were socialists

            I mean, they’re the same thing. I just think the modern equivalent tend to present themselves as socialist who happen to be nationalist rather than the neo Nazi they really are.

            Which “leftists” are you referring to that are actually nazis just apeing as “leftists”? Give me something concrete, what party?

            The Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance is a pretty good example… Or stačilo in in the Czech Republic.

            Calling them democracies without this disclaimer makes me assume you are a neoliberal.

            Any time I mention a democracy I have to make a long preface? I never said if it was a good thing or a bad thing, just that supporting nationalist political parties was a way to disrupt the democratic countries.

            And no I am not a neolib… Personally I think promoting multipolarism is a mixed bag. Over all it may bring some geopolitical stability but it does have its downsides, and that often going to be felt hardest by at risk groups.

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              I mean, they’re the same thing.

              No they’re not. You’re emphasising the socialist where everyone that recognises that they are not socialist absolutely does not use it, ever. You’re literally using the nazi’s own propaganda because you view it as useful to your anticommunist agenda.

              The Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance is a pretty good example…

              No not really. This is a socialist that wants socialism but has traditional social beliefs. If you think this is nazism then literally every liberal party pre-1943 was also a nazi.

              Are these views backwards social views? Yes absolutely. Are they advocating for fucking nazism? Or anything that would remotely look like a fascist organisational structure of government? Fucking no. They’re absolutely not.

              You have confused fascism with identity politics. You’ve got it into your head that fascists all hold right wing social views and everyone else is not a fascist.

              Fidel Castro and Che Guevara at the time of their revolution are both “national socialists” under this analysis. It’s just flat out wrong. These are real socialists who hold outdated social views on the family, it’s absolutely not the same thing.

              • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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                No they’re not. You’re emphasising the socialist where everyone that recognises that they are not socialist absolutely does not use it, ever.

                National socialism is a dog whistle for fascist… Pretty much anyone claiming to want socialism for their nation independent from globalized socialism ends up being a Nazi.

                This is a socialist that wants socialism but has traditional social beliefs. If you think this is nazism

                Traditional beliefs being hate mongering immigrants? The Nazi professed to want socialism for “real” Germans… That’s just not how socialism works. You can’t sustain socialism independently from a greater world wide movement.

                Or anything that would remotely look like a fascist organisational structure of government? Fucking no. They’re absolutely not.

                Guess what…? The Nazi didn’t run for office promising an. organizational structure of government.

                You’ve got it into your head that fascists all hold right wing social views and everyone else is not a fascist.

                Can you give me an example of a fascist nation that didn’t hold right winged social views?

                Fidel Castro and Che Guevara at the time of their revolution are both “national socialists” under this analysis.

                Ahh yes, both of those people famously hated immigrants.

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                  National socialism is a dog whistle for fascist… Pretty much anyone claiming to want socialism for their nation independent from globalized socialism ends up being a Nazi.

                  I don’t think you’ve really listened to me.

                  Traditional beliefs being hate mongering immigrants?

                  No but playing into working people’s concerns about migrant workers driving down salaries and taking jobs? Yes. Exactly the same shit happens among parts of the left in the UK. Galloway has done exactly that. Nazi? No. Bit of a dickhead? Yes.

                  Guess what…? The Nazi didn’t run for office promising an. organizational structure of government.

                  I’m sorry but this is just wrong. The fascist organisation structure is quite specific and fascists absolutely did talk about it loudly during their rise. What the fuck do you think the fasces even represents? Fascists aren’t hiding their goal of restructuring the very structure of government.

                  Can you give me an example of a fascist nation that didn’t hold right winged social views?

                  Can you give me an example of a socialist nation that has not held these traditional social views? The only one that does not is Cuba, and that is only a recent development.

                  Ahh yes, both of those people famously hated immigrants.

                  There are no socialist countries with open borders that simply welcome everyone with open arms. In fact, socialist countries all have pretty strict borders, significantly more strict than the liberal countries of the EU.


                  You are mis-analysing these socialists and it is a mistake to call them nazis. They have backwards views because they’re old fucks and out of touch, but they are absolutely left wing. If you dug up Mao or Deng they would probably explicitly agree with them, because they’d be old fucks today too, that wouldn’t make them less communist though and it certainly wouldn’t make them nazis. It would just make them old and out of touch with developing social issues.

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                    don’t think you’ve really listened to me.

                    Ditto…

                    No but playing into working people’s concerns about migrant workers driving down salaries and taking jobs? Yes.

                    And this is different from the Nazi with Jews how exactly?

                    . The fascist organisation structure is quite specific and fascists absolutely did talk about it loudly during their rise. What the fuck do you think the fasces even represents?

                    I mean that’s just ahistorical… The center and right party did not cooperate with the Nazi party thinking they were going to be putting themselves out of power. The riechstag fire wouldn’t have been necessary if this was the case.

                    Can you give me an example of a socialist nation that has not held these traditional social views? The only one that does not is Cuba, and that is only a recent development.

                    I think the Soviet union and especially West Germany were culturally progressive for the time.

                    So how about that fascist socially progressive fascist nation?

                    There are no socialist countries with open borders that simply welcome everyone with open arms. In fact, socialist countries all have pretty strict borders, significantly more strict than the liberal countries of the EU.

                    You are conflating open borders with legal immigration.

                    If you dug up Mao or Deng they would probably explicitly agree with them, because they’d be old fucks today too, that wouldn’t make them less communist though

                    Lol, sure… The men who committed to war for their Korean neighbors, totally would be nationalistic isolationist who hates immigrants.

        • Johnny_Arson [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Or that they aren’t supporting far right politicians all over the world as it benefits them in the long run.

          This bullshit line only serves to displace blame from the inherent reactionary tendencies of all western countries. Russiagate bullshit needs to fucking die. Own your reactionary politicians and do something about them instead of blaming the “perfidious asiatics”. It’s exhausting with you fucking people. Clean your own house and fuck off.

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            I mean they would be stupid not to support radical parties in their oppositional democracies. It just speed runs democracies natural tendencies to decay into fascism.

            • hello_hello [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              democracies natural tendencies to decay into fascism.

              So you too also enjoy fatalistic idealist framings of issues to skirt away from criticism. I thought I was the only one!