Israeli forces killed a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they appeared to surrender to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.”
Oh prof. perrstorkia knows more than the doctors and photos and prisoner testimonies and photos of returned bodies are all lying. Read you smartbutt propagondist: JUST READ :
“The first observation is that, in all the bodies that organs were harvested or removed are those that are now routinely transplanted: the heart, lungs, liver, kidneys and corneas,” Abu Sittah, who spent more than a month working in Gaza’s hospitals during the war, said.
The method of extraction - the rib cage and ribs were clipped with a sharp saw - a medical saw, a bone saw - and the sternum, along with the central part of the ribs, was lifted to allow for the removal of the heart and lungs without damage to the organs being taken," he said, noting that the skin of all the victims appeared to be burnt by liquid nitrogen - a chemical used to preserve tissue.
“The essential point is there was no damage to the remaining organs, meaning the extraction was carried out surgically by an experienced surgeon.”
Chillingly, Abu Sittah cited multiple testimonies from witnesses who said that the victims were alive at the time of extraction.
Here is the problem Prof. surgeon perestokia , it’s either you from your chair 5000 miles away who is right, or tell me theses surgeons and doctors and returned bodies and prisoners all lying. How many braincells do I need to choose between the two and expose who is the propagondist here?
And here is my last piece, you ready? Will you still believe it if an anatomist doctor from the IOF themselves tesitified about them organ harvesting palestinian hostages on video on the Israeli channel itself ???
If you cannot provide a good source in your first post, screaming about others not believing you several posts later serves no purpose - you could have avoided that. If you want others to believe you, it’s your job to convince them. Name-calling won’t convince anyone.
Congratulations, I missed something - the article in “The New Arab” references the words of a medic and provides his name - dr Ghassan Abu Sittah. He is a reputable source.
This could have been your first post. Instead you posted a link to your own post on Lemmy, in which this was source no. 7 - which I, for some reason, missed.
You could have also posted a link to this article, but you have so far not done so.
Advise: learn to argue better. Drop the name-calling. Don’t call a person a propagandist if they aren’t. In the best case, you will stress yourself and the other person before getting to the core of information at hand. In a worse case, discussion will stop right there. Provide direct sources immediately. Prefer reputable sources. Don’t provide a wall of links, but a relevant link.
You just spent 3 days to convince me that Israel could be guilty of organ harvesting. I am convinced, they could be guilty. But you could have used your time better, and could have convinced me with 30 minutes by providing direct links to relevant sources. For example, the below link might have convinced me of the plausibility of your allegations in even less time, maybe a mere 15 minutes - because it’s from a reputable source (no background digging needed) and from a different period - not influenced by current events.
So, your claim is plausible. But don’t claim to know the outcome of a particular incident if you don’t know the outcome of a particular incident - people will think you’re lying and ask you to prove stuff.
In reality, we don’t currently know what happened to the remains of those 2 guys. What should matter more at this time - they were shot after surrendering.
your advise has always been my downfall and I admit that. most people shutdown as soon as I turn hostile against them or insult them. It’s because I have nothing to gain whatever they choose to believe.
I aslo agree with your conclusion that it is not definitive why they brought a sketcher and took the bodies afterward. I already told you I really hope thats the case. thank you regardless whether we agree or disagree take care.
Oh prof. perrstorkia knows more than the doctors and photos and prisoner testimonies and photos of returned bodies are all lying. Read you smartbutt propagondist: JUST READ :
“The first observation is that, in all the bodies that organs were harvested or removed are those that are now routinely transplanted: the heart, lungs, liver, kidneys and corneas,” Abu Sittah, who spent more than a month working in Gaza’s hospitals during the war, said.
The method of extraction - the rib cage and ribs were clipped with a sharp saw - a medical saw, a bone saw - and the sternum, along with the central part of the ribs, was lifted to allow for the removal of the heart and lungs without damage to the organs being taken," he said, noting that the skin of all the victims appeared to be burnt by liquid nitrogen - a chemical used to preserve tissue.
“The essential point is there was no damage to the remaining organs, meaning the extraction was carried out surgically by an experienced surgeon.”
Chillingly, Abu Sittah cited multiple testimonies from witnesses who said that the victims were alive at the time of extraction.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-returns-palestinian-bodies-organs-expertly-cut-out
Here is the problem Prof. surgeon perestokia , it’s either you from your chair 5000 miles away who is right, or tell me theses surgeons and doctors and returned bodies and prisoners all lying. How many braincells do I need to choose between the two and expose who is the propagondist here?
And here is my last piece, you ready? Will you still believe it if an anatomist doctor from the IOF themselves tesitified about them organ harvesting palestinian hostages on video on the Israeli channel itself ???
https://www.newsweek.com/gigi-hadid-accusing-israel-organ-harvesting-1847006
https://yalibnan.com/2024/01/19/time-for-act-action-over-allegations-of-theft-of-human-organs-byisrael/
AND HERE IT IS ON VIDEO . Their doctors literally stating their policy of organ harvesting palestinian prisoners:
https://americasbestpics.com/video/source-israel-channel-2-tv-we-do-not-touch-soldiers-Erwvax91B
and since you only believe israelis, here is an Israeli lawyer verifying the testimonies of palestinains getting raped and tortured in prisons:.
https://youtube.com/shorts/WDZaawPhjKA
you still want evidence and think any crime is too far fetched from these nazi animals?
If you cannot provide a good source in your first post, screaming about others not believing you several posts later serves no purpose - you could have avoided that. If you want others to believe you, it’s your job to convince them. Name-calling won’t convince anyone.
Congratulations, I missed something - the article in “The New Arab” references the words of a medic and provides his name - dr Ghassan Abu Sittah. He is a reputable source.
This could have been your first post. Instead you posted a link to your own post on Lemmy, in which this was source no. 7 - which I, for some reason, missed.
You could have also posted a link to this article, but you have so far not done so.
Advise: learn to argue better. Drop the name-calling. Don’t call a person a propagandist if they aren’t. In the best case, you will stress yourself and the other person before getting to the core of information at hand. In a worse case, discussion will stop right there. Provide direct sources immediately. Prefer reputable sources. Don’t provide a wall of links, but a relevant link.
You just spent 3 days to convince me that Israel could be guilty of organ harvesting. I am convinced, they could be guilty. But you could have used your time better, and could have convinced me with 30 minutes by providing direct links to relevant sources. For example, the below link might have convinced me of the plausibility of your allegations in even less time, maybe a mere 15 minutes - because it’s from a reputable source (no background digging needed) and from a different period - not influenced by current events.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs
So, your claim is plausible. But don’t claim to know the outcome of a particular incident if you don’t know the outcome of a particular incident - people will think you’re lying and ask you to prove stuff.
In reality, we don’t currently know what happened to the remains of those 2 guys. What should matter more at this time - they were shot after surrendering.
your advise has always been my downfall and I admit that. most people shutdown as soon as I turn hostile against them or insult them. It’s because I have nothing to gain whatever they choose to believe. I aslo agree with your conclusion that it is not definitive why they brought a sketcher and took the bodies afterward. I already told you I really hope thats the case. thank you regardless whether we agree or disagree take care.