The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    117
    arrow-down
    44
    ·
    1 year ago

    I like how this comment section highlights why a job fair specifically not for cis men is needed lol

    • PeachMan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      60
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      1 year ago

      It’s so fucking cringe. I work in tech, I see how weirdly women get treated and I see their unusually high turnover rate. Early on I was told “women don’t last long here” and it was very true, that woman in particular quit to do freelance work (good for her). Why can’t women have a job fair? Men don’t fucking need one, NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

      • Soulg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m really being sincere, but why would men magically not need a job fair? They can also be unemployed and struggle to get a job. That’s not a 2x specific issue.

        • PeachMan@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          I guess I’ll just copy and paste from my previous comment:

          NEARLY ALL of the other tech job fairs are dominated by men.

        • CaptFeather@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          1 year ago

          Because men dominate the tech industry. It just doesn’t make sense to hold one for men.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            Eh… I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

            I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            Eh… I think it does, but for different reasons. The tech industry has a relatively high rate of unemployment. Job fairs would be good for everyone.

            I agree that women have unique issues in tech and a women-only job fair would be a good thing. I just think General-admission job fairs are useful now too.

      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Why can’t women have a job fair?

        Laws.

        I agree with you, it’s just not the way the laws were written.

      • Smoogs@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        What’s worse is when you see workplaces that want more women for only the idea it will ‘bring up the standard’ like….I think there’s something telling about the culture alone if they need a specific gender to help understand better standards of working. I would hope they are hiring inclusively for more reasons than just ‘our standards are low cuz the men here are poo and we won’t confront them on it. We will leave it to women to mommy manage it for us. Know any women looking for a job?’

      • cricket97@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        45
        ·
        1 year ago

        If woman want a job fair they should create one that actually only allows women, but given no one seems to have a definition for women, it might be hard to do.

          • cricket97@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            10
            ·
            1 year ago

            which law prevents a private female only conference from happening? As far as I know, there are no such laws.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              1 year ago

              Read The Fucking Article, that’s the exact reason they allowed men at the conference in question: federal nondiscrimination laws

              • cricket97@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                1 year ago

                I’m saying I don’t buy that reason. There are no laws (afaik) that prevent exactly what I described. Federal discrimination laws typically refer to employment or public places, not private events.

                • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  This is an employment related event. Anti discrimination laws apply to applicants.

                  If it was just a networking event, no problem, ban men

                  • cricket97@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    I don’t believe there are any laws that make that illegal. There are plenty of black only recruiting events, there was one at my college. If you can find me a law that says this is illegal I will bite my tongue, but from what I can tell it applies to employers, not anything close to recruiting events.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yeah if there’s ever a sign that a group doesn’t need representation is when they brigade someone who does.

      • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        No it does not. The problem was with men that lied about their gender.

        Cullen White, AnitaB.org’s chief impact officer, said in a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, that some registrants had lied about their gender identity when signing up, and men were now taking up space and time with recruiters that should go to women.

        edit: the deleted comment stated that the article claimed they had problems with amab enbies