cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/39883667
cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/6931377
cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/11379
Since Israel began bombarding Gaza and starving its population of more than 2 million Palestinians in October 2023, the consensus that the Israeli government is committing genocide has steadily grown to include international and Israeli human rights groups, a United Nations panel, Holocaust scholars, and nearly 40% of Jewish Americans, according to one striking recent survey.
But in 10 words, former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Tuesday waved away the findings of respected groups like Amnesty International and renowned experts like Brown University professor Omer Bartov, when she commented on why young Americans are expressing support for Palestinians.
“They were getting their information from social media, particularly TikTok,” said Clinton.
Without pointing to any evidence, the former secretary of state said young people in the US are “seeing short-form videos, some of them totally made up, some of them not at all representing what they claim to be showing, and that’s where they get their information” about Israel’s attacks on Gaza.
She added that “it’s not just the usual suspects”—without naming who those pro-Palestinian “suspects” are.
“It’s a lot of young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand,” she said. “A lot of the challenge is with younger people.”
Hillary Clinton blames TikTok and “totally made up” videos for young people’s views on Israel and Palestine.
She says social media influenced “not just the usual suspects” but also “young Jewish Americans who don’t know the history and don’t understand.” https://t.co/rUVXRqK2rK pic.twitter.com/hAwG7Gbhwf
— Prem Thakker (@prem_thakker) December 2, 2025Her remarks echoed those of former Obama White House speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz, who spoke recently about the challenges Zionists are presented with when they try to defend Israel to young Jewish people who have seen widely available, credible images and news out of Gaza, where Israel has killed more than 70,000 Palestinians and is continuing to restrict humanitarian aid despite a ceasefire deal reached in October.
“Anything that we try to say to them, they’re hearing it through this wall of carnage,” Hurwitz lamented last month, drawing condemnation.
Clinton was speaking at an event in New York City for Israel Hayom, the most widely read newspaper in Israel, which is run by billionaire Miriam Adelson, a megadonor to President Donald Trump. Adelson published an editorial in the Jewish Journal in November 2023 saying pro-Palestinian protesters “are dead to us,” and her late husband, Republican donor Sheldon Adelson, said in 2014 that the Palestinians are “an invented people.”
Jeremy Slevin, a senior adviser to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), pointed to the irony of Clinton attending an event associated with the Adelsons and then claiming that “the kids are being radicalized by anti-Israel propaganda.”
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Clinton has frequently claimed that pro-Palestinian Americans, particularly students who took part in nationwide campus protests last year as they urged the Biden administration to comply with US law and stop funding Israel’s attacks on Gaza, are simply misinformed about Palestine and ignorant of history, particularly pointing to the 2000 Camp David Summit hosted by former President Bill Clinton.
The former secretary of state has repeated the claim that the Palestinians were offered a “generous deal” at the meeting and “walked away”—a “myth” that Camp David negotiator Robert Malley has debunked, warning it’s been used by Clinton and others to “justify Israel’s genocide.”
Robert Malley on the myth of “Palestinians walked away” at Camp David (July 2000):
➤ Malley says the popular story pushed since 2000 – that Arafat rejected a “generous offer” – is contradicted by the actual record. Israeli PM Barak sidelined the Palestinians for a year,… pic.twitter.com/3vlf1Rl4qj
— Drop Site (@DropSiteNews) November 28, 2025“She’s the one getting the history wrong,” including at the Israel Hayom event, said Drop Site News on Tuesday.
A number of observers took issue with Clinton’s suggestion that anti-Israel sentiment in the US is being driven solely by young people, with Just Security executive editor Adil Haque issuing a “periodic reminder that the biggest shift in attitudes toward Israel and Palestine has been among older Democrats.”
In 2022, 43% Democratic voters ages 50 and up had an unfavorable view of Israel. That percentage has risen sharply since Israel began its onslaught in Gaza, with 66% of those voters reporting an unfavorable view in a Pew Research Center poll this year.
Meanwhile, 71% of Democrats ages 49 and under opposed Israel in the same poll, and 62% of them had expressed opposition in 2022, denoting a less extreme shift in opinion.
“Democrats get their news from CNN more than other mainstream sources,” said Haque, pointing to the network’s recent investigation about Palestinian aid-seekers who were killed by Israeli forces. “If you’re a 60-year-old with grandkids and you read or watch CNN’s Gaza reporting, you don’t need TikTok to know that what’s happening is very, very wrong.”
Dylan Williams, vice president of government affairs at the Center for International Policy, also suggested Clinton has an inaccurate view of who opposes Israel’s ongoing attacks on Palestinians.
“I’m nearly 50. I don’t use TikTok. I listen to NPR ‘Morning Edition’ and read the Financial Times daily,” said Williams. “I’m a lawyer who has worked on Israel-Palestine issues for the last 20 years. The evidence I’ve seen that Israel committed atrocities including genocide in Gaza is overwhelming.”
Author Jason Overstreet wondered how Clinton would explain the findings of human rights groups like Amnesty International and Israel-based B’Tselem, which pointed to testimonies by Israeli soldiers and the documented destruction of Gaza’s food system when it concluded in a report in July that Israel is committing genocide in the exclave.
“I guess Hillary Clinton also thinks that Amnesty International called what’s happening in Gaza a genocide because they saw some videos on TikTok and just ‘did not know history,’” said Overstreet. “Young people’s views on Israel are based on young people knowing that Israel has committed genocide.”
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“Used to be that young people just believed whatever propaganda we fed them! But now they’ve got actual video evidence of Isreal committing horrifying crimes against humanity and this has somehow convinced their barely formed minds that Isreal are, like, bad or something. Grumble grumble, oh shit my Depends are overflowing again!”
Hey Hillary.
Genocide - the deliberate and systematic destruction of a group of people because of their ethnicity, nationality, religion, or race.
Words have meaning. The state of Israel is committing genocide.
Israel IS committing genocide. Maybe if Israel doesn’t want people to think it’s doing genocide, it should stop doing genocide. TikTok ain’t got shit to do with it.
I think TikTok is bad. But maybe the reason young Americans condemn Israel is because of Israel’s actions (bombing Gaza, starving Gaza, withholding medicines from Gaza, trying to deny Palestinian statehood).
I think Hamas’s attack on Israeli civilians in 2023 was not in any way justified. Civilians should not be attacked. But if we’re going to say that, then it also means that Palestinian civilians should not be attacked.
Wtf 😡
“Anything that we try to say to them, they’re hearing it through this wall of carnage,” Hurwitz lamented
Remind me, who built this wall? I’ll wait.
Hey, if Israel can get away with annihilating cities and civilians then that gives us a free pass to commit extrajudicial killings in international waters. The bar has been moved.
To be clear, TikTok IS trash and IS an awful source for news.
Republican then.
Yeah, she’s a DINO along with her philandering husband.
Ok, to be fair maybe it is just mass murder and war crimes.
Just to point out, Israel committing genocide is what makes people think Israel is committing genocide.
But… but everything was better when they didn’t know about it!
Ban the tok! 😭
who can we blame for arab terrorist groups literally having israeli genocide written into their constitution and arabs starting genocidal wars against israel?
I’m guessing you’re referencing the Hamas Charter. It has since been updated:
While the 1988 Hamas Charter had been widely criticized for its antisemitism, the 2017 document removed the antisemitic language and stated that Hamas’ fight was not with Jews as such because of their religion but with the “Zionist project.”[10][11][12][13][14][15] When asked, Hamas leaders explained that “The original charter has now become a historical document and part of an earlier stage in our evolution. It will remain in the movement’s bookshelf as a record of our past.”[16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter
They haven’t fully repudiated the old charter, though, so there’s that. But I can’t fault them for trying to push back against the “Zionist project.” Anyone would fight for their right to continue living on their ancestral lands, if threatened.
oh hey look the third most famous person to suck off Bill Clinton
There is zero evidence or claim she ever blew him
Technically it would just be “suck” he wouldn’t let other people get him “off”/finish the job because that would be a sexual act.
Uhhh, Hillary is a grasping attention-seeker… and corrupt.
Am not on tiktok, am not a kid and even I see what is happening in Gaza.
She needs to fuck off and STFU like her husband.
Hillary also tried to blame gang violence and school shootings on video games decades ago.
She was wrong then, she’s wrong now.
People talk a lot about Hillary Clinton infamous “Pokémon Go to the Polls” remark, but she repeatedly suggested banning “violent” video games through her 2015-2016 campaign. That was undoubtedly a factor in GamerGate/ the alt-right shift among mainstream gaming and internet culture at that time. I found out that Hillary held this position from mainstream internet memes.
I don’t think the significance of this issue can be understated, given Gen Z’s rightward shift in 2024. Feminists are gonna vote Dem, Bible-Thumpers are gonna vote Republican; it’s the politically-indifferent population that decide elections.
People don’t know/have forgotten that the Democrats really pushed the moral panic around violent video games and music. Both Joe Liberman (Al Gore’s running mate and promenant senator) and Tipper Gore (wife of Al Gore) were leaders in pushing for music/video game censorship
Tipper Gore was part of a group of Evangelical Christian representative’s spouses who did this. The driving force was her faith not her party.
But her party supported her efforts, so while it may have started with some religious rationalization, the Dems took it on as well. Another shameful example of Democratic weakness, and willingness to abandon their principles for no good reason at all.
Whose party? Tipper Gore was Al Gore’s wife not a politician herself. The PMRC was a bipartisan group in terms of which party theor husbands were in.
A politician’s wife is an extension of the politician, and uses her voice to amplify their chosen issues. When the first or second lady start talking about an issue, it’s because they have been cleared by the administration to talk about it.
Don’t kid yourself, the 90s Democrats were trying to appease the pearl-clutching moralizing Republicans by voluntarily abusing the First Amendment because Republicans were offended by curse words on records, and Tipper Gore was the point man.
First, no the wife of someone is not an extension of their spouse nor vice versa as they are separate people.
Second, why are you talking about the 1990s? Were you alive when this was going on?
They were also in on the whole Clipper Chip debacle. They tried to force a hardware level encryption backdoor into all computers back under President Clinton. This stuff isn’t new for them, they’re just less dictatory then the Conservatives who are founded on the restoration of the monarchy.
The same Joe Lieberman that blocked the public option from the ACA. Guy was a real piece of shit.
I don’t need to ever hear from Hilary again.
I am not a young person and do not ever use TikTok. The reason I think there is a genocide is the sheer preponderance of evidence.
I am not a young person and do not ever use TikTok. The reason I think there is a genocide is the sheer preponderance of evidence.
Same
The average Lemmy user is going to be significantly more informed than the average person. If you only used cable news and Facebook to get your information you wouldn’t have the facts to take an informed stance.
If you use cable news outside the US you will see what israel is doing and piece it together too.
Stop calling it a genocide, it’s just a simple case of systematically eradicating a specific group of people. - Hillary Clinton (probably)
