• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    Not once did I advocate against helping the poor?

    You will never win. No matter the system you will be oppressed until the Kingdom of Heaven comes.

    You are literally advocating against the poor right now. Any hope of actually helping the poor, advancing the people’s condition through systemic change, is impossible and a foolish, immoral endeavor, according to you, we should all just suffer and accept whatever oppression and injustice is inflicted on us so that we can get pie in the sky when we die. It’s literally exactly what you’re saying.

    Curiously, the crusades, which were also a political endeavor, do not fall under the same logic (nor does banning abortion, for that matter). Because it was a ruling class endeavor. The ruling class’s boot is so far down your throat that you can’t even speak coherently.

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      10 hours ago

      You are literally advocating against the poor right now. Any hope of actually helping the poor, advancing the people’s condition through systemic change, is impossible and a foolish, immoral endeavor, according to you, we should all just suffer and accept whatever oppression and injustice is inflicted on us so that we can get pie in the sky when we die. It’s literally exactly what you’re saying.

      No, I’m just saying that politics cannot replace God.

      Curiously, the crusades, which were also a political endeavor, do not fall under the same logic (nor does banning abortion, for that matter). Because it was a ruling class endeavor. The ruling class’s boot is so far down your throat that you can’t even speak coherently.

      It’s the ruling class who seems to criticise the Crusades and Christianity the most

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        9 hours ago

        “Politics replacing God” just means “people advocating for politics you personally disagree with.”

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          No, it doesn’t. For example, there are some people who have a Christ-centred socialist view. Karl Marx was Antitheist and Materialist. That’s my main reason for disagreeing with Marxism.

          The reality is that no political system will ever abolish oppression due to The Fall.