That is true, but it doesn’t mean the person you originally replied to is wrong. What they said is also true. Presenting what you did as a counterargument makes no sense.
As far as I know none. But barriers to being able to get one is wildly different. I know in New York, there’s a 30 day waiting period after having a consultation with the dr before they are allowed to operate.
Is a life-saving emergency vasectomy a thing? I feel like this whole comment section is just incapable of understanding the degree of the law being discussed and the impact on an individuals life.
Like, it would be unfair if in California men were not allowed to jwalk but women were. Kind of odd. But, like, what the fuck are we even talking about if we’re comparing that to something on the level of a often life saving medical procedure?
I’m autistic. But this comment section is making me feel neuro-typical for how incredibly hyperfocused it is on trying to act like the OOP is “technically wrong”. And the best example I can find talking about cis men is your comment. I gotta be missing something. Are people really saying there is some law comparable to anti abortion laws that target cis men? I really hope it’s not a 30 day waiting period for a vasectomy when the same thing probably applies for non medically necessary hysterectomys as well. Seriously, did you even look up the laws on hysterectomys in the the same state? Because that’s a much more risky procedure that likely has even more restrictions.
Well I don’t know, but have you had six separate $150+ appointments with your doc who asks you questions ranging from “well what does your boyfriend of two weeks want” to “are you really sure?” to “we’re going to have to ask you attend this six week course on why it’s important to produce a legacy before we can sign off on this. Then we’ll see what your insurance has to say”
The topic was illegal procedures, the person I replied to was comparing a vasectomy to abortion by asking which states it is illegal in.
The comparison isn’t valid. A vasectomy isn’t remotely the same procedure as an abortion.
Well I don’t know
You could check before posting so that you would know.
If you did, you would find out that there are 0 states in the United States where either tubal ligation or vasectomies are illegal.
I do agree that the access to care situation is shit and caused by sexist lawmakers and doctors.
But, just because you agree with someone, doesn’t mean you can’t tell them that they’re making irrational arguments. If people want to continue to push for change, it’s important that everyone is capable of understanding the issues and know how to argue them effectively.
Making outrage baiting statements are good for social media engagement, but they’re antithetical to convincing people to change.
First, sorry, but it’s fewer rights, not less rights, since it’s countable.
Second, sure, that’s true. That’s not what this is about though. There’s no reference above to which group is more privileged. It’s only talking about the fact that, in some places, the rights of men (and all people) do differ. I’m sure you can recognize this is true, right? Some states protect (or, rather, don’t infringe on) some rights more than others, for all people, right? If you agree then the statement of the OP is definitively untrue, and the comment above is accurate.
If someone posted “white women’s rights don’t vary state by state, but black women’s do”, they would rightfully be called out for posting nonsense. But you’d be there saying “no but black women have it worse tho” That’s the equivalent. It’s a clearly false statement intended to make one group an enemy instead of an ally and you shouldn’t be defending it so blindly
Which state is it illegal to get a vasectomy?
The post does not specify reproductive rights, it just says rights.
Ftfy
Yeah, and women have other rights than those related to reproduction. The person you replied to was pointing this out.
They didn’t say it was that right specifically
No they are comparing men’s rights to women’s.
Women’s rights to life saving medical care (abortion) is being denied.
That is true, but it doesn’t mean the person you originally replied to is wrong. What they said is also true. Presenting what you did as a counterargument makes no sense.
As far as I know none. But barriers to being able to get one is wildly different. I know in New York, there’s a 30 day waiting period after having a consultation with the dr before they are allowed to operate.
Is a life-saving emergency vasectomy a thing? I feel like this whole comment section is just incapable of understanding the degree of the law being discussed and the impact on an individuals life.
Like, it would be unfair if in California men were not allowed to jwalk but women were. Kind of odd. But, like, what the fuck are we even talking about if we’re comparing that to something on the level of a often life saving medical procedure?
I’m autistic. But this comment section is making me feel neuro-typical for how incredibly hyperfocused it is on trying to act like the OOP is “technically wrong”. And the best example I can find talking about cis men is your comment. I gotta be missing something. Are people really saying there is some law comparable to anti abortion laws that target cis men? I really hope it’s not a 30 day waiting period for a vasectomy when the same thing probably applies for non medically necessary hysterectomys as well. Seriously, did you even look up the laws on hysterectomys in the the same state? Because that’s a much more risky procedure that likely has even more restrictions.
Which state is it illegal to get a tubal ligation?
Well I don’t know, but have you had six separate $150+ appointments with your doc who asks you questions ranging from “well what does your boyfriend of two weeks want” to “are you really sure?” to “we’re going to have to ask you attend this six week course on why it’s important to produce a legacy before we can sign off on this. Then we’ll see what your insurance has to say”
The topic was illegal procedures, the person I replied to was comparing a vasectomy to abortion by asking which states it is illegal in.
The comparison isn’t valid. A vasectomy isn’t remotely the same procedure as an abortion.
You could check before posting so that you would know.
If you did, you would find out that there are 0 states in the United States where either tubal ligation or vasectomies are illegal.
I do agree that the access to care situation is shit and caused by sexist lawmakers and doctors.
But, just because you agree with someone, doesn’t mean you can’t tell them that they’re making irrational arguments. If people want to continue to push for change, it’s important that everyone is capable of understanding the issues and know how to argue them effectively.
Making outrage baiting statements are good for social media engagement, but they’re antithetical to convincing people to change.
Which states is abortion, a life saving medical procedure illegal?
Sorry, I don’t have a direct men’s version of this.
Texas has been murdering people over it.
I don’t know.
Which world is a vasectomy and tubal ligation the same as an abortion? Because that was the comment that I responded to.
Wow u really gottem
It seems like the same people that get mad about black lives matter, screaming white lives matter are here.
No, this is very different than that. This is about supporting one group without intentionally putting down another.
Y’all always tell on yourselves lol
Women have a long history of having less rights than men.
When did they allow women to start voting? That is just one example
First, sorry, but it’s fewer rights, not less rights, since it’s countable.
Second, sure, that’s true. That’s not what this is about though. There’s no reference above to which group is more privileged. It’s only talking about the fact that, in some places, the rights of men (and all people) do differ. I’m sure you can recognize this is true, right? Some states protect (or, rather, don’t infringe on) some rights more than others, for all people, right? If you agree then the statement of the OP is definitively untrue, and the comment above is accurate.
You are a fucking chode
Does anyone in this thread disagree with that? I haven’t seen a single example.
If someone posted “white women’s rights don’t vary state by state, but black women’s do”, they would rightfully be called out for posting nonsense. But you’d be there saying “no but black women have it worse tho” That’s the equivalent. It’s a clearly false statement intended to make one group an enemy instead of an ally and you shouldn’t be defending it so blindly
Spicy analogy but valid
The message “black lives matter” was intentionally amplified to sow dissent along racial lines.