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ANTIFA, 1944, colorized (sort of)
That’s just band of brothers… Great show btw.
No. I understand the desire to define these guys as “antifa” but no. That IS NOT what they are. They are freedom fighters fighting against a fascist system, but to try to call them “antifa” to try to garner support is an obvious ploy to try to help legitimize a group that doesnt even resemble the American armed forces fighting againt fascist leaders in the European theater in 1940s.
No this is not a picture of “Antifa” members, and I dont think they would appreciate you labeling them as such.
Jim, antifa just means anti FA or anti-fascist. These soldiers were against Nazis and fought them which makes them anti-fascists and therefore AntiFa. Now they might not label themselves as such were they alive nor were all of them leftists, but that doesn’t take away the fact that they were in fact Antifa.
fighting against a fascist system
You know what the “fa” in antifa means right?
Hint: it’s in your text I just quoted.
I understand why you need this type of propaganda in the US. However, there is several flaw that may be an issue in this take :
- US regime was an inspiration for the nazi regime, formally (i.e with segregation) and informally
- British, French and Canadian where colonial empire that make genocide before WWII. In fact, a lot of soldier during the war where forced by those empire, and some where killed after the world, because their colonial empire refuse to pay them or give the freedom their promise for. This is not irrelevant, in fact according to Aimé Césaire, this is the root of fascism
Those countries (specially the US) use massive bombing against cities, targeting civilians to spread terror and break resistance. If it war true in Germany (and it still a war crime and a fascist move), it was true in other space like Normandy, where whole city was destroy for little strategical interests and massives casualties.
After the victory, allies deport and detain massively former german soldiers, including forced one, and some of them where arbitrary execution where done (including on french people).
Those authoritarian regimes lead to fascists movement in response. People that where not linked with far-right, where influenced by it, in order to denounce what killed their relatives.
Of course, this violence spare the nazi elite. It’s well known that scientist could escape in collaborate with the US or the URSS, but even some nazi general or high administrator could work for the US (in the FRG or NATO) on for the colonial forces. France for example quickly hire former SS to repress colonies in Indochine (Vietnam) and Algeria. Those SS make a political party, known has the “front national”.
I’m not saying that the real antifascist where the USSR, they where some antifa, including during the d-day (i.e the anarchists of the Nueve). I’m underlying that the fascism is not something coming from outside our societies, but from it.
Again with this nonsense these aren’t “anti-fa” given how many them were fascists themselves just fighting the Nazis doesn’t make you anti-fascists never mind the philosophy invoked by calling someone or identifying as anti-fa.
i dunno, my grandfather who fought in france taught us all that a good nazi is a dead nazi. and he was conservative as fuck.
Hey now, don’t go insulting the heroes of WW2 just because you dont like that they’d kill you in a heartbeat for being a neo-nazi/fascist pig.
The extreme majority of them weren’t fascists, and they fought to protect the rights and freedoms of individuals who the nazi scum and their turd allies tried to take away.
Go back to the cesspit you crawled out of before you start insulting my grandparents.
What utter bullshit is this? Are you that ignorant, or are you intentionally misrepresenting history? In either case, you need to shut your mouth.
Fascism is a far-right political ideology. Let explain to you what it is composed of, its beliefs:
It is authoritarian: no democracy, no elections, only one single party led by one charismatic fugure. This usually comes with the “cult of the Leader”.
It is ultranationalist: people from that nation (or race) are considered “supreme”, that others are inferior and even “subhuman”, and usually comes with a narrative that they are being attacked (despite being dominant).
It is repressive: political opposition is suppressed, the media is attacked and “put under control”, and individual freedom and rights are taken away to maintain social order and ensure the absolute authority of the state.
It is totalitarian: state must control all aspects of public and private life, including the economy and culture, abusing propaganda and censorship.
This is what America is turning into RIGHT NOW. Not so in the late 30s, when Americans were coming out from the Great Depression, and when its values were literally opposed to all of these.
when its values were literally opposed to all of these.
That’s only true if you are viewing US history from the perspective of the white colonizers.
Ultranationalist isn’t always about race. 1930s US was waaaayyy more into using race as a signifier for nationalism than modern US, albeit I would argue that modern US is more nationalistic though the 1930s is when those seeds were being planted.
Also you want to talk about repressive and totalitarian?1850-1950 was the century of Jim Crow, company towns, robber barons, indigenous genocide, concentration camps, red scare, yellow journalism, etc.
Nazi Germany was just as “opposed” to all of your points so long as you were Von Germanic Protestant.
You are intentionally misrepresenting history and whitewashing the US and engaging in the exact ultranationalism you claim to be speaking against. Shut your keyboard.
Lol.
