The only way to prevent this is to figure out a way to solve the problem of criminals using encrypted services, without it affecting those not committing crimes. If bad solutions keep getting voted down, eventually one that makes sense will be proposed.
It’s so weird that this “logic” is applied to criminals using encryption/encrypted messaging platforms, but not really any other tool used by both criminals and non-criminals. Like, criminals use hammers and bricks to illegally smash windows, and yet there are no governing bodies out there trying to come up with “creative” solutions to regulate hammers and bricks, to create “backdoors” in hammers and bricks that make them ineffectual for doing crime but retain their original functions. Because that’s impossible.
Instead, maybe what we should do is improve society somewhat so that people don’t feel compelled to commit crimes. You know, the one thing that’s been demonstrated time and time again to actually work.
Do you really think criminals will just continue using chat apps knowing they are being constantly scanned?
Of course not! They will find different ways to communicate. Criminals won’t just disappear. This DOESN’T solve crime AT ALL.
This is such a fucking stupid political argument and people are falling for it. “Oh yes, if we introduce mass surveillance, there won’t be any more terrorists or pedophiles”
It’s pure mass surveillance that doesn’t solve the problem and has zero benefit for the society.
Just for you to know, it will not solve a problem since it is relatevly easy to create an encrypted mail or chat system from scratch, server part of which would be hosted on some random cheap web service platform and a customer service would be installed as app or exe on desired devices. It literally takes like a few hours, especially with help of modern AI. I am not talking about hight quality UI and all comfort features, just pure functionality and basic needs are very easy and fast to organize. And then simply share the copies of such app and credentials to access specific info channels with other people you need. That is all. Such system would be hard to even find because of its small scale and decentralization. And even if it will be tracked down, it is still would be manually encrypted, what means that dialogs will not be easily hacked anyway.
So this law is simply a part of a total cyber control program masked under “righteous intentions”.
The only way to prevent this is to figure out a way to solve the problem of criminals using encrypted services, without it affecting those not committing crimes. If bad solutions keep getting voted down, eventually one that makes sense will be proposed.
It’s so weird that this “logic” is applied to criminals using encryption/encrypted messaging platforms, but not really any other tool used by both criminals and non-criminals. Like, criminals use hammers and bricks to illegally smash windows, and yet there are no governing bodies out there trying to come up with “creative” solutions to regulate hammers and bricks, to create “backdoors” in hammers and bricks that make them ineffectual for doing crime but retain their original functions. Because that’s impossible.
Instead, maybe what we should do is improve society somewhat so that people don’t feel compelled to commit crimes. You know, the one thing that’s been demonstrated time and time again to actually work.
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Guns are a better example. Thieving tools is another.
Not really, those examples have the same faults as hammers and bricks.
I guess we shouldn’t attempt to restrict them then huh.
Are you being purposely obtuse, or did you just not read my comment?
Probably the latter.
This isn’t a problem that needs to be solved.
Do you really think criminals will just continue using chat apps knowing they are being constantly scanned?
Of course not! They will find different ways to communicate. Criminals won’t just disappear. This DOESN’T solve crime AT ALL.
This is such a fucking stupid political argument and people are falling for it. “Oh yes, if we introduce mass surveillance, there won’t be any more terrorists or pedophiles”
It’s pure mass surveillance that doesn’t solve the problem and has zero benefit for the society.
Just for you to know, it will not solve a problem since it is relatevly easy to create an encrypted mail or chat system from scratch, server part of which would be hosted on some random cheap web service platform and a customer service would be installed as app or exe on desired devices. It literally takes like a few hours, especially with help of modern AI. I am not talking about hight quality UI and all comfort features, just pure functionality and basic needs are very easy and fast to organize. And then simply share the copies of such app and credentials to access specific info channels with other people you need. That is all. Such system would be hard to even find because of its small scale and decentralization. And even if it will be tracked down, it is still would be manually encrypted, what means that dialogs will not be easily hacked anyway.
So this law is simply a part of a total cyber control program masked under “righteous intentions”.
Still harder than using signal.
Good luck with that.