• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Conflated logic fallacy. Palestine is not Germany. They’re not asking for Poland. They just want to be left alone.

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          They just want to be left alone.

          Then they should probably return to the negotiation table to participate in the peace process willing to make concessions, and stop launching constant guerilla terrorist attacks against civilians, poking the bear. That’s the only viable way that they can be left alone. They don’t seem interested in going that route and instead seem keen on genocide against an enemy they can’t hope to defeat militarily.

          Israel withdrew from Gaza and then the Palestinians there elected Hamas, now this happened as a result. Way to incentivize Israel to leave them alone.

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      1 year ago

      Your position might have been reasonable two weeks ago. Today, reconciliation with a hostile enemy who is actively murdering and kidnapping your civilians is both inappropriate and foolish.

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        I’m a fool then. It’s called settler colonialism. And even if I don’t agree with the methods, who am I to judge those who are oppressed. Israel enabled Hamas. So if you don’t like what they did, blame Israel. It’s not complicated.

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          So if you don’t like what they did, blame Israel. It’s not complicated.

          “Look what you made me do!” Screamed the terrorist as he murdered old women, kidnapped innocents to be used as hostages, paraded bloodied bodies through the streets, beheaded babies, and raped civilians in front of their dead friends.

          Yeah really compelling. What you support is vile.

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            Your bent logic doesn’t work. Was I vile when I nearly cried as I watched a young, barely teen, Palestinian girl pulled from the rubble of her home after it was bombed? If that’s vile, so be it. I stand with Palestine! Not Hamas. Palestine! You stand with Settler Terrorism.

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              Was I vile when I nearly cried as I watched a young, barely teen, Palestinian girl pulled from the rubble of her home after it was bombed?

              That is worthy of sympathy, what’s vile is then saying this justifies mediaeval brutality against civilians. There’s a difference between collateral damage and intentionally murdering civilians. Israel goes to great lengths to minimize collateral damage, often giving targets of their strikes advanced warning. If Israel behaved like Hamas, if they went by the same playbook and sought to maximize civilian deaths, there would be no Palestine. The behaviors of these actors are not morally equivalent.

              I stand with Palestine! Not Hamas. Palestine!

              Palestinians of Gaza elected Hamas, they are the representatives that they chose to represent them. Don’t pretend this is an unrelated entity. These attacks were not orchestrated by some clandestine civilians, it was the genocidal government they chose behaving the way they said they would.