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mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol to World News@quokk.au · 2 months ago

Britain won’t let US use its bases to attack Greenland, says John Healey

www.lbc.co.uk

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Britain won’t let US use its bases to attack Greenland, says John Healey

www.lbc.co.uk

mc900ftJesus@lemy.lol to World News@quokk.au · 2 months ago
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  • danekrae@lemmy.world
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    They will only assist them in piracy.

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      Piracy can only be committed by private interests, not states.

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        I wouldn’t go that far.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privateer

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          Privateer… hmm

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            A letter of marque and reprisal[a][b] was a government license in the Age of Sail that authorized a private person, known as a privateer or corsair, to attack and capture vessels of a foreign state at war with the issuer, licensing international military operations against a specified enemy as reprisal for a previous attack or injury. Captured naval prizes were judged before the government’s admiralty court for condemnation and transfer of ownership to the privateer.

            Hmm that’s a lot of state involvement for a purely private enterprise.

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              It was essentially tax on a private concern. It still holds in maritime law that piracy is only an offence that exists in a civilian context. Militaries by definition cannot commit piracy.

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                It also legalised their piracy against declared enemy states.

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          Right so a privateer is still a private individual. A private individual sanctioned by the state to commit piracy on its behalf.

          When a state’s military forces seize a foreign vessel that is not an act of piracy it is an act of war

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            Sure, but the original argument was that states could not engage in piracy, not that militaries couldn’t. The existence of privateers and their state mandates show that states can engage in it.

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              It’s more like a state allowing a private individual to engage in piracy.

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                Yes they allowed them too, they gave them a list of who they could attack, and at times armed them. Thats very much the state being involved in it. Outsourcing doesn’t absolve culpability.

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                  I’m not saying they don’t retain liability or responsibility. We’re talking about the definition of piracy.

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                    the act of attacking ships in order to steal from them

                    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/piracy

                    an act of robbery on the high seas also : an act resembling such robbery

                    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/piracy

                    Piracy is an act of robbery or criminal violence by ship or boat-borne attackers upon another ship or a coastal area, typically with the goal of stealing cargo and valuable goods, or taking hostages.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy

                    What about it?

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