Can’t find any solid article to link to but I remember reading one where it was described Walmart tried to implement american practices in german soil: lots of eye contact, forced smiles, empty conversation and team building exercises. Daily. Employees called the syndicates. The syndicates brought a large bucket of lube.
Articles? Try papers. It was so much of a shit-show that it’s become the standard case study of how to not expand to other countries. And the failure goes well beyond how they treated employees, it all starts by trying to compete with Aldi and Lidl on their home turf, saying “we’ll have lower prices” while also trying to “convince the German customer with great service”, which of course costs money. And Germans don’t want people to pack their groceries that costs money.
They also ignored laws left and right, again not just when it comes to employment (e.g. trying to forbid that employees date each other) but also more general, say, having loss leaders: In Germany, you can’t sell products below the wholesale price you paid yourself. You can sell it at zero profits, but not at a loss (unless, say, it’s ice cream and your refrigerator just failed). Other strategic mistakes include buying up stores from a German chain that failed because it had shit store locations.
That’s not to say that you can’t export how you do things to other countries – case in point, Aldi: They started to become big in the US after the financial crisis but Aldi Süd opened their first store in the US in 1976. They stayed small, grew organically, meanwhile learning how Americans tick, what products they like, where they’re willing to buy store-brand and where not (e.g. store-brand toothpaste is a non-starter), and learned how to talk to Americans, how to explain why things are done like Aldi does them. And, TBH, “Don’t waste your grocery money on a bagger” is easier to sell than the opposite.
And they don’t have much issue convincing people that their store brand stuff is good, it’s generally produced according to EU standards. Like the bread containing sourdough instead of a chemical cocktail, and chocolate that’s, no, not stellar, but not full of cheap non-cocoa fats. Meanwhile, Wallmart was selling duvet covers that didn’t fit any blankets or pillows any German had. Figures that standard sizes differ between countries and you should pay attention to such stuff.
They also have insanely high employee retention for US standards, and aren’t unionised – They aren’t unionised in Germany, either, which is only to like 5% up to Aldi fighting it actively, the rest is their, for lack of better word, paternalistic company culture: You don’t become manager at Aldi without having swept floors, stocked shelves, and sat at the register, and even when you’re a manager that’s still what you do, just not while there’s paperwork that has to be dealt with. That’s not standard US corporate culture – but it pretty much is world-wide small owner-run store culture: Everyone does everything, as needed, and bosses wield mops. It’s a busy work day every day but the pay is good, drama is minimal, and the employer is loyal to you.
I have friends that worked for a company that a US company bought. They sent people from the “top brass” from the US to reform the company and implement an American work culture. This is Norway, so 90 percent of what they implemented was illegal.
The boss/employer culture is pretty different, too. If you set a meeting after 15.00 on a friday, people will call you an idiot to your face and refuse to attend - no matter your position in the company.
“The American dream” lasted only a few months after almost all of the developers quit and got new jobs within seconds. Last I’ve heard of that company was when they closed doors.
I remember reading once about how James Cameron was all too happy to take millions in tax cuts to film Aliens in England, but then became a little crying bitch when he realized that English unionized workers actually protect their workers. He got mad that they wouldn’t work through lunch or breaks, or work in his insane schedule or whims, or do dangerous work. Made me lose a lot of respect for Cameron.
I didn’t know this. It’s psychotic to expect everyone to be on the same page as the guy who gets most of the credit, rewards and freedom of expression. Especially if you’re only job is to bring the coffee
There was an interview with a swedish spokeperson from tesla published the other day, they had no idea that what they were doing is against laws and contracts
I think they forget the difference between America unions and European unions
They always do. Walmart completely running against a wall in Germany is still getting a chuckle out of me.
And Sweden is two steps above Germany in that refard. So good luck to Tesla to not get stomped. I’d wish the unions luck, but they don’t need it.
What’s the story about Walmart in Germany?
Can’t find any solid article to link to but I remember reading one where it was described Walmart tried to implement american practices in german soil: lots of eye contact, forced smiles, empty conversation and team building exercises. Daily. Employees called the syndicates. The syndicates brought a large bucket of lube.
Articles? Try papers. It was so much of a shit-show that it’s become the standard case study of how to not expand to other countries. And the failure goes well beyond how they treated employees, it all starts by trying to compete with Aldi and Lidl on their home turf, saying “we’ll have lower prices” while also trying to “convince the German customer with great service”, which of course costs money. And Germans don’t want people to pack their groceries that costs money.
They also ignored laws left and right, again not just when it comes to employment (e.g. trying to forbid that employees date each other) but also more general, say, having loss leaders: In Germany, you can’t sell products below the wholesale price you paid yourself. You can sell it at zero profits, but not at a loss (unless, say, it’s ice cream and your refrigerator just failed). Other strategic mistakes include buying up stores from a German chain that failed because it had shit store locations.
That’s not to say that you can’t export how you do things to other countries – case in point, Aldi: They started to become big in the US after the financial crisis but Aldi Süd opened their first store in the US in 1976. They stayed small, grew organically, meanwhile learning how Americans tick, what products they like, where they’re willing to buy store-brand and where not (e.g. store-brand toothpaste is a non-starter), and learned how to talk to Americans, how to explain why things are done like Aldi does them. And, TBH, “Don’t waste your grocery money on a bagger” is easier to sell than the opposite.
And they don’t have much issue convincing people that their store brand stuff is good, it’s generally produced according to EU standards. Like the bread containing sourdough instead of a chemical cocktail, and chocolate that’s, no, not stellar, but not full of cheap non-cocoa fats. Meanwhile, Wallmart was selling duvet covers that didn’t fit any blankets or pillows any German had. Figures that standard sizes differ between countries and you should pay attention to such stuff.
They also have insanely high employee retention for US standards, and aren’t unionised – They aren’t unionised in Germany, either, which is only to like 5% up to Aldi fighting it actively, the rest is their, for lack of better word, paternalistic company culture: You don’t become manager at Aldi without having swept floors, stocked shelves, and sat at the register, and even when you’re a manager that’s still what you do, just not while there’s paperwork that has to be dealt with. That’s not standard US corporate culture – but it pretty much is world-wide small owner-run store culture: Everyone does everything, as needed, and bosses wield mops. It’s a busy work day every day but the pay is good, drama is minimal, and the employer is loyal to you.
That’s the crucial key to good company culture.
Want loyal and motivated employees? Be loyal to them! I hope we’ll be able to relearn this principle.
Ah, here is the MVP to save the day. Thanks!
I don’t have Aldi around but I have Lidl and their chocolates are good. I’ll buy those over Nestlé everyday.
I have friends that worked for a company that a US company bought. They sent people from the “top brass” from the US to reform the company and implement an American work culture. This is Norway, so 90 percent of what they implemented was illegal.
The boss/employer culture is pretty different, too. If you set a meeting after 15.00 on a friday, people will call you an idiot to your face and refuse to attend - no matter your position in the company.
“The American dream” lasted only a few months after almost all of the developers quit and got new jobs within seconds. Last I’ve heard of that company was when they closed doors.
Oh well… Moving on.
If IF Metall is stronger than the biggest and strongest union in Germany IG Metall, he’s fucked.
I remember reading once about how James Cameron was all too happy to take millions in tax cuts to film Aliens in England, but then became a little crying bitch when he realized that English unionized workers actually protect their workers. He got mad that they wouldn’t work through lunch or breaks, or work in his insane schedule or whims, or do dangerous work. Made me lose a lot of respect for Cameron.
I didn’t know this. It’s psychotic to expect everyone to be on the same page as the guy who gets most of the credit, rewards and freedom of expression. Especially if you’re only job is to bring the coffee
There was an interview with a swedish spokeperson from tesla published the other day, they had no idea that what they were doing is against laws and contracts