For me its probably the debate regarding using a VPN with tor - Like the tor devs themselves recommend against using a VPN with tor.

Another is also probably the argument of “nothing to hide, nothing to fear”.

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    No Telegram chats are end-to-end encrypted by default. And I don’t know anyone who’d use the feature regularly (it’s a hassle).

    And, to be fair, it’s not really necessary for most day to day messaging.

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      I think it’s very much necessary to insist on our right to privacy. Personal chats not being encrypted should be a clear and absolute NO for anyone.

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        Ideally, yeah. Practically, shit like stickers or media sharing is way more important to the vast majority of people.

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      That’s not true. Please don’t spread misinformation. That’s literally the point of this thread.

      TLS encryption to telegram servers is not e2ee. That’s the point

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          Your sentence, and punctuation, are ambiguous. When I read it I thought you were saying they were end to end encrypted. But seeing your second comment and rereading it, I can see how you meant it to be they are not end to end encrypted

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            It’s ambiguous only if you expect people to not use punctuation 😅.

            But yeah I can see how it could be confusing. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a mark for showing that a comma was omitted deliberately, lol.