“No one is looking at us or the extent of this disaster or the crimes that we are experiencing in Gaza,” he said. Still holding his microphone, he slid off his flak jacket marked with the word PRESS and unstrapped his helmet.

“These protection jackets and helmets don’t protect us,” he said, flinging the equipment to the ground. “Nothing protects journalists. … We lose our lives for no reason.”

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    Hamas doesn’t care if those civilians and journalists die anymore than probably Israel does. It goes to show how stupid this is because everyday Israel becomes more the murderer, more the oppressor, more the aggressor, more the monster. I’m sure Hamas leadership love it because they literally have to do nothing as proud Israel marches into the history books as the land hungry maniac butcher of the middle east. This is how a 9/11 works and you buffoons are out here trying to roast Hamas marshmallows on the smoldering corpses of women and children.

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      The trick is, if you destroy enough Palestinians and drive them from thier home ling enough, those people’s kids will have no connection to Palestine/Gaza and little desire to go back. After time the situation would solve itself.

      If you continue to let hamas rule Gaza and commit acts of terror then Israel will retaliate insuring the continuation of the current situation until.the end of time.

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          Or you know, the people.in Gaza can leave and not die. Not only.do they not have to die from Israel bombs but don’t have to live under hamas rule

          Sounds like a win win

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            What a sickening take.

            Not only.do they not have to die from Israel bombs

            It’s THEIR LAND. Why are the only options “leave forever, or die?”.

            but don’t have to live under hamas rule

            There wouldn’t be a Hamas if Israel didn’t stop murdering and stealing land they have no right to. Between 2008 and 2020, 5,590 Palestinians have been murdered

            Until Israel has all of the land, this won’t stop. They continue to murder and maim for decades, and when a Hamas retaliation happens, well then “this is war”.

            Let’s be clear about something. This was ‘Christmas come early’ for Israel, as Hamas laid out an attack that gave them a cart blanche to go all out on Palestine, ignoring all wartime rules, as they commit actual genocide, confirmed by Israeli Holocaust scholars: https://www.wrmea.org/israel-palestine/holocaust-scholars-say-israel-is-committing-genocide.html

            The solution should always start with de-escalation. Everyone knows this. Cops are trained to do this. Why is nobody policing Israel? They can’t even commit to saying what is going on in Israel is definitively Genocide.

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              It’s funny since you posted all this shit just to agree with me that until Palestine in Gaza ceases to exist thus fighting will continue.

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                No one’s agreeing with you. What’s funny is that your reading comprehension sucks.

                Until a murderous genocidal country, supported unconditionally by the most powerful nation in the world, doesn’t stop bombing innocent civilians and murdering children, the civilians can’t survive.

                The solution isn’t for the civilians to leave. It’s for the genocidal Zionist fascists to be tried in criminal court and face up to their crimes, just like any other country in the world would be.

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            Yet neither Egypt nor Israel want to open their borders to Palestinian civilians. Where should they go?

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      Sounds like it was a bad idea for the Gazans to put them in charge of their government. Maybe they should do something about that

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        They took power illegally years before the literal majority of Gaza citizens were even born.

        Edit: My apologies, the ones that are almost legal adults would have been infants or toddlers at the time Hamas seized power. They really should have done something about that while they were learning how to walk and speak. /s

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          Okay, and? I’m sorry, my dude, but Hamas won the election before they illegally seized power, and it’s not like the people of Gaza have tried to do anything about that. Who is supposed to do it for them?

          Yeah, it sucks that sometimes the citizens of a nation pay the price for the actions of their leaders. But who else can change their leaders for them?

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            You’re talking about a population with extremely limited resources that is literally 50% (or more) children that has been under two fascist boots for the last decade and a half. There does come a point where a level of desperation combined with a possibility of a better future will instigate a revolution, but right now? They don’t see a possibility of a better future. With Israel’s Likud on the other side of the wall and no resources to rebuild after a coup, what’s the point in gambling everything on maybe being able to overthrow the more local oppression?

            Also, education in Gaza is very inconsistent and most political revolutions are started by people with education and nothing to lose.

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              Okay? What, am I supposed to say that the people supporting genocidal lunatics aren’t doing that because they have a shitload of kids? How does that change jack or shit?

              Or do you think Israel shouldn’t defend themselves because the people relentlessly attacking them have a bunch of children? What is the path towards Hamas no longer launching rockets and attacks at Israel?

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                  Hundreds. One would be too many, as they are perpetrated by the official government of Gaza.

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                    So how many is “too many” for Israel to have killed? Or do the citizens of Gaza not count the same way Israelis do?

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                I think you are misunderstanding how the demographic shift in Gaza has happened. They didn’t have a baby boom, it’s just that many of them do not survive very far into adulthood because of violence, health and environmental problems, and, when they can manage it, emigration.

                Secondarily, I’m interested to hear how you justify calling Hamas genocidal without making the same observation about the Likud and Netanyahu.

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                  Dude they have been having a huge population boom for a long time. Population growth rate is 2% per year. PER YEAR.

                  Secondarily, I’m interested to hear how you justify calling Hamas genocidal without making the same observation about the Likud and Netanyahu.

                  Likud and Netanyahu are far right nationalists. In that sense, they’re like Hamas. I am not a fan of them. The difference is what they’re willing to do to promote the interests of their state. Netanyahu and Likud have lines they won’t cross, Hamas doesn’t. If Netanyahu was as deranged as Hamas, they’d nuke Gaza and just go in and slaughter the population. I am glad they have those lines.

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                    The fact that Netanyahu has supported Hamas in the past as a foil to the PA says otherwise to me. To a certain extent, Israel has made its own monster out of Hamas and Gaza through their policies and positions.

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          If North Korea starts a war, its people will bear the brunt. But that’s a bad comparison - Hamas was elected.

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            Maybe tell that to the children (who are 2 out of every 5 murdered) who didn’t even exist for this definitive election of yours. It’s a fine comparison. It’s been so long since either event that your blaming a currently suffering group for the mistakes of it’s predecessors, and it rings just as gross and hollow. Why don’t you tell me how women should dress so they don’t get raped?

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              Idk man shit sucks sometimes, but the people of Palestine have agency, and the Gazans chose their government.

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                the people of Palestine have agency

                That’s the best fucking joke I’ve heard in a long time. Gazans have zero control over their situation. Maybe it’s telling that they elected Hamas, (almost 20 goddamn years ago when half their population wasn’t even born yet, I might add) who they felt were the only option to get them out of apartheid.

                Bombing the shit out of population is a great way to breed extremists, and it will continue to happen as long as the ethnic cleansing continues.

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                  They had enough control to put Hamas in power and spend like two decades launching rockets at Israel

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                    Did you read anything past the first sentence? I swear you guys are all illiterate.

                    Isreal famously never did anything to provoke those rockets. They definitely didn’t spend the last 75 years systematically dispossessing Palestinians and subjecting them to extreme violence.