• Graylitic@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Yep, that’s why more democratic Modes of Production such as Communism are more resistant to corruption than antidemocratic Capitalistic Modes of Productuon.

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        1 year ago

        I think many of the socialist states of Asia and Eastern Europe are or were ridiculously corrupt. How democratic those were is of course questionable.

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          1 year ago

          The same could be said of Capitalism. The difference is that the very structure of Socialism is based on democratic principles.

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              1 year ago

              It’s still structurally more resistant to corruption than Capitalism, which is my point. It’s not immune, nothing is.

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                1 year ago

                I’m not sure even that is true. Not sure how you can even really measure that. Or do you mean it could theoretically be?

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                  1 year ago

                  Yes, theoretically.

                  Capitalism, by definition, is a system where Capital Owners pay wage laboring workers to create commodities. Functionally, you have people with excess power.

                  Communism, on the other hand, requires collective ownership of Capital. You don’t have fundamental power imbalances baked in.

                  Following, it’s easier to implement anti-corruption practices, such as forming democratic worker councils.

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                    1 year ago

                    What do you feel was the reason that the corruption was so high in Eastern European socialist states?

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          1 year ago

          There was never socialism in Asia or Eastern Europe. At no point have the workers seized the means of production and had a dictatorship of the proletariat.

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            1 year ago

            You can apply this No True Scotsman logic to capitalism, too. Its biggest fans say True capitalism has never been tried, either.