• MudMan@kbin.social
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    Eh… what the hell is that link? The recommended videos on that place are WILD.

    I had heard some rumblings about Rossmann being on some weird alt-right focused service, but I had honestly forgotten and I wasn’t expecting to get a faceful of it by accident. Yikes.

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      odysee is a weird place, lots of “creators” that were forced off youtube and other places for far out views or outright dangerous lies ended up there as they have almost no rules.

      There are a lot of non-far-right weirdos that use it, but it is hard to scroll through without seeing some fringe crazy shit.

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      Jesus Christ, you weren’t kidding. One of the recommended videos for me was “Why the crusades were completely justified!” Yeah, fuck that crazy shit.

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      It is not an alt-right service. It doesn’t show recommendations based on data collected about you, and instead shows subscriptions, and top viewed videos with similar titles to the video you’re watching.

      Both videos containing the word “justified” is probably the reason. Odysee is in my opinion what YouTube should have been.

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      Every other recommend video had the word “justified” in it. It’s recommending similar videos on the titles alone. I’m not defending it, just pointing out how weird that is.

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      What’s really wild is that people arguing for things like Right-to-Repair would be anywhere near right-wing to begin with.

      Like, Louis, you don’t see how the entire conservative ideology undermines ideas like right-to-repair? How can you be like “Yeah, I trust these guys who all would shut down the things I’m arguing for,” and just be oblivious to it?

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        the entire conservative ideology undermines ideas like right-to-repair

        Louis’s videos are posted to multiple platforms out of principle, not politics… that means they also get posted on sites with creators that have been kicked out of YouTube, like the one linked here

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          A person of principle wouldn’t post there. Simple. It walks, quacks and shits like a duck.

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          My principle is I don’t hang out in fucking Nazi spaces.

          Like, I wouldn’t go to a bar that advertised itself as a Nazi bar, and I wouldn’t upload my content to a site like this, that has enough Nazis on it that they’re in the recommended videos for a fucking Louis Rossman video.

          If Louis is happy hanging out at Nazi bars, that’s on him and you can hardly hang that on “principles.”

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            Odysee is not a Nazi space. It is a privacy focused decentralized alternative to YouTube.

            The largest group of youtubers on that platform are not the alt-right, but rather, the free and open source software community, privacy and decentralization advocates, and programmers.

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              And yet the top suggested videos were about how the Crusades were justified and how cop shootings are justified.

              I would think if the largest community was programmers, those kind of videos would be suggested, not this shit.

              Top suggested videos sadly speaks otherwise about the people on this site.

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                  Still a shit site that we’ll never hit main stream.

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                    It doesn’t really need to hit mainstream IMO. It is a good alternative for privacy and decentralization enthusiasts. With an account you’ll mostly be getting videos from channels you subscribe to. It is honestly the first time I found an alt-right video on that platform.

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                You have the same garbage on YouTube but their algorithm hides it from you and shows it to the alt-right. Odysee doesn’t have an algorithm.

                You can’t really have an algorithm and privacy at the same time, so the best you can do here is downvote and block the video/channel.

                With enough downvotes (only around 2 more should be enough ) the video won’t be recommended as much.

                You can see it has one green blob thingy. That’s my downvote. It isn’t a huge platform to begin with so it is not like it takes much to drive out the trash.

                If it violates site policies or law, you can report the video and have it taken down, though it will only be taken down from Odysee, and not on other instances that use the underlying video hosting technology (LBRY)

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        Repairing things used to be normal. From that point of view, conservatism is perfectly right.

        I doubt he is right wing, given what he says and does.

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          Repairing things used to be normal. From that point of view, conservatism is perfectly right.

          Conservatism has only ever existed to keep an aristocracy. Look at history, it’s literally why it developed as an ideology, because a lot of the aristocracy from Europe didn’t actually want the aristocracy to end, so they needed to make up political positions that supported the idea that there should be an untouchable elite to whom laws don’t apply.

          It has literally never, ever existed to “conserve” anything like natural resources or the rights of individuals. At it’s core it was about retaining Kings, Queens, Dukes, and Lords without actually keeping those, but instead making it about wealth.

          So yeah, gonna hard disagree on that. Conservatism is the source making laws that deny you the ability to repair, the conservatives aren’t the ones out here fighting for it.

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            People get old, they do not want this to change. That is where it comes from. Regardless of the persons status. It is also irrelevant where it comes from.

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            I think I just realised that the term “conservative” is just a lie. Just like “pro-life” or whatever other BS they come up with, it’s just a smokescreen to cover their real agenda, which is to dominate others.

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        Dude sounds a lot like a libertarian business owner tbh. I wouldn’t be surprised if they align very well with the right otherwise.

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          he has some very dubious takes - he’s very correct on how shitty it is to be a consumer but he’s completely blind to any systemic analysis of it, willfully I would imagine.

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          Platforms that offer greater freedom also tend to host visibly more extreme content. My guess is the slightly more advertiser friendly extremism pushed by algorithms on mainstream platforms is far more impactful on society.

          Outside of the relatively small number of people engaged with issues like software freedom, privacy, right to repair there is no reason to choose a platform with less views unless your content is banned from the alternatives.

          I expect Rossmann’s politics are shaped by his experiences as a small business owner. Many such people desire greater economic and individual freedom and are likely economic liberals but that doesn’t necessarily influence their views on other matters. He is an outspoken advocate for consumer freedoms including right to repair which I respect. I don’t know the guy personally but I would be surprised and disappointed if he endorses far right crazy shit. I am using Lemmy and respect the people who wrote the software but nothing about my politics should be inferred from theirs.

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        Here’s the conservative angle, at least in my view: “We’ve always had the right to repair our possessions before, and we will conserve that right for future generations.”

        Then again, what I consider conservative has never actually matched up with the political party, which is a big part of why I am no longer right wing.