/uj Anyone unironically using the phrase “activating ovaries” needs to be punched in the face. I’ve played 8 or so hours of this game and it is in no way “pedo bait”. If you think that you’re self reporting.

JFC Gamers ™ are exhausting.

    • jontree255@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      35·
      12 days ago

      I think all you need to know is that it was an influence by right wing agitators to create a wedge issue and get young men to their side. It was very successful in that measure and a lot of male toxicity online today stems from it.

    • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      16·
      12 days ago

      Weird men got super upset that a woman was enjoying their same hobby, and then there was something about feminists ruining everything for them.

      To be honest I get pretty lost too, but some people are like really obsessed with Anita S and it’s really weird and gross what they did.

      • breadsmasher@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        12 days ago

        It was nothing until Steve Bannon got involved.

        Gamergate was a swell of support for scum like trump and bannon

        • LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          3·
          12 days ago

          Yeah it sits does seem like endless outrage over nothing that is used to feed the fascist suit, which is a pretty good description of it as well…

      • Contramuffin@lemmy.world
        8·
        10 days ago

        My understanding is that there were genuine journalistic concerns with regards to Anita Sarkeesian, but then the narrative ended up getting twisted into a sexism thing when sexist gamers got involved. If I recall correctly, the initial issue was that the editor appeared to not be impartial when selecting who to write for what topic, and people believed that the perceived partiality was because of the fact that Sarkeesian and the editor were in a relationship. It’s a clear conflict of interest, but nothing major. What would have/should have been a minor journalistic scandal devolved into creepy incelposting.

        Which really muddied the waters, because it also caused many regular people to dismiss the initial, core concern that the journal did have a conflict of interest.

        While Sarkeesian definitely did not deserve the harassment, I think it should also be noted that she is a somewhat problematic individual. There was scandal that came up back in 2020 or so where she accused a game developer/ex-boyfriend of being abusive, which is generally acknowledged to have led to his suicide just several days later. But later reports revealed that many of her accusations were incompatible with evidence, and so it’s unclear how much, if any, of the accusations were truthful

        Edit: mixed up two people. I’m unsure how much the wires got crossed, and I don’t have time to fact check myself right now. Please take this comment with a huge grain of salt

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        3·
        12 days ago

        I went so far as to download archives of reddit from that time period. But I get completely lost when people start using “gamergate” and “anti-gamergate” as surrogates within that conversation. They both start getting used as subject, adverb, adjective, political stance, but it’s still not clearly.defined to an outsider.

        • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 days ago

          One side was making bad faith arguments about journalistic integrity, which is a real concern, but what they really hated was women/minority/queer representation in games and wanted to grift on the incels.

          The other side was making bad faith arguments about the lack of representation in games, which could have been better, but wasn’t really as bad as they made it out to be. They were also grifting, but were mostly harmless and could be ignored.

    • fenrasulfr@lemmy.world
      3·
      10 days ago

      If I remember it correctly it started with some people calling out a journalist for not disclosing that the game she reviewed was made by her partner.

      Which snowballed into a bigger discussion about corruption in games journalism. While at the same time there was a movement to have more representation for women, lgbtq and people of color (sorry if this not the correct term) in gaming.

      Some of the representative of that movement had never touched a game and criticised beloved classics. This gave the extremist an in to spread their hate. Which led to a vicious online rivalry between two camps. The progressive gamers and the gamers.

      Tell me if I forgot something.