There is nothing criminal in creating, using and sharing those mods (as hateful as they are), the modder could have simply said he did it because he felt like it, but the mediaval theming justification is really stupid and inflammatory.
The community reaction is very counterproductive, they have only succeeded in making the mod very visible now. And nexusmods as usual accepting all kinds of horrible mods but censoring only according to drama. All badly here.
You say that but I think that every time this has happened, Nexus has improved in both its standards and clarity on these situations.
And I agree, I’m fine with people making the mods, but they should already know to take them elsewhere. I don’t care if it becomes more popular or less popular or more known. I hope it stays known that Nexus won’t tolerate mods that harm their community. And they are perfect, but props for that.
Lol why can’t he just be like “as a straight dude, i don’t really want characters of my character’s sex coming into me.”? That’d be a perfectly fine justification for a mod. The equivalent would apply if somebody wanted it to be even gayer. Shouldn’t all this shit be preference anyway?
Jeff’s answer was more direct and to the point, but I’d like to point out that as a straight dude, he turned one character in a lesbian relationship into a man. He wasn’t turning characters’ sex towards the player.
Morality is complicated (especially online), there are many ways to interpret things and almost everything is wrong to different degrees for different people. It’s easier to appeal to the hard limits of what people have or don’t have the right to do.
Morally, one can also say that feeding a troll or arbitrary censorship is wrong. Which is not the same as saying that the platform has no right to block trolls and have content rules.
Yes, how terrible he was criminally charged and facing a prison sentence. In whatever universe you’re posting from.
Sounds like a miserable place, because over here, deplatforming works fine. Lying bigots find themselves jeering ‘censoring me proves me right!’ to an ever-shrinking audience.
There is nothing criminal in creating, using and sharing those mods (as hateful as they are), the modder could have simply said he did it because he felt like it, but the mediaval theming justification is really stupid and inflammatory.
The community reaction is very counterproductive, they have only succeeded in making the mod very visible now. And nexusmods as usual accepting all kinds of horrible mods but censoring only according to drama. All badly here.
You say that but I think that every time this has happened, Nexus has improved in both its standards and clarity on these situations.
And I agree, I’m fine with people making the mods, but they should already know to take them elsewhere. I don’t care if it becomes more popular or less popular or more known. I hope it stays known that Nexus won’t tolerate mods that harm their community. And they are perfect, but props for that.
Lol why can’t he just be like “as a straight dude, i don’t really want characters of my character’s sex coming into me.”? That’d be a perfectly fine justification for a mod. The equivalent would apply if somebody wanted it to be even gayer. Shouldn’t all this shit be preference anyway?
Yeah but this dude wasn’t planning on this. They were planning on also removing all non-white characters etc… Wasn’t done in good faith.
Besides, they can put this in their own website
Yeesh
Jeff’s answer was more direct and to the point, but I’d like to point out that as a straight dude, he turned one character in a lesbian relationship into a man. He wasn’t turning characters’ sex towards the player.
Good point!
this isn’t about the law. this is about what’s right and what’s wrong. making mods like this, and allowing them to exist on the platform, is wrong.
Morality is complicated (especially online), there are many ways to interpret things and almost everything is wrong to different degrees for different people. It’s easier to appeal to the hard limits of what people have or don’t have the right to do.
Morally, one can also say that feeding a troll or arbitrary censorship is wrong. Which is not the same as saying that the platform has no right to block trolls and have content rules.
the complexity of morality does not preclude it from being discussed
Yes, how terrible he was criminally charged and facing a prison sentence. In whatever universe you’re posting from.
Sounds like a miserable place, because over here, deplatforming works fine. Lying bigots find themselves jeering ‘censoring me proves me right!’ to an ever-shrinking audience.
What makes it hate?