• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      IMHO, they have much more to lose if they decide to start getting shady around privacy and security stuff in western nations. They’ve sunk too much money into building a brand around privacy and security.

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              I mean, of course, yeah. By mainstream I mean what your average consumer would purchase and use. They almost certainly will not be rooting a device

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                1 year ago

                I am the family tech support and I certainly will not be rooting a device.

                And I would almost certainly recommend Apple to my family for the “mainstream privacy”

              • I believe it depends on what exactly someone defines as mainstream, for me using degoogled AOSP it’s something normal idk if it’s mainstream but what exactly it’s mainstream depends on the POV don’t you believe? But in my humble POV definitely Apple it’s not exactly all rainbows about privacy and security, unless you don’t mind your “encrypted” stuff being seen by the CIA and the NSA of course.

                  • According to my knowledge as Android have a bigger market share than iOS, then the fact Android would be more mainstream than iOS and getting a degoogled Android it’s not as hard using ADB. Yeah I have exaggerated about degoogled rooted AOSP, sometimes I am a little bit sarcastic, but anyway, the point it’s: nor Google nor Apple are trustworthy if you are really concerned about privacy, if you are just a normal person who will use the phone to storage pics of your fat wife or the big hotdog of Costco I don’t think you will have a big problem about it, but if you are related to a political organization, a gov agency or you are doing anything illegal(or politically incorrect) I wouldn’t recommend Google or Apple at all anyway.

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              Rooted, degoogled AOSP is definitively not “mainstream”. Mainstream to me means something you can but off the shelf and start using without having to modify it.

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              1 year ago

              Are you kidding man? The options are things you can buy off the shelf and turn on.

              If you are rooting, configuring etc you are off the mainstream

              • There is nothing what you can buy out of the shelf and turn it on which respect your privacy and security at all wo a minimum effort and knowledge by the user, nor apple nor google are trustworthy at all, I mean if you will use their “encrypted” clouds to storage pics of your fat wife in them there is no problem but I wouldn’t recommend any of those big corps spyware out of the shelf to anyone involved into politics or really concerned about their privacy at all.

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          Well, we know they’re not, but the people that eat up all the ads Apple makes about their shallow privacy features you have to manually turn on don’t.