You are absolutely correct. The original Hebrew word in the Bible for hell is Sheol, which means grave, or place of resting. He even says “this is the second death”. You don’t get eternal life, except through accepting him, according to the scripture.
Well it’s not their word for hell, that’s the point. It means death or grave, the idea of hell wasn’t even considered until the Greek started being converted in the first and second century and folded their ideas about the afterlife (including their underworld ‘hel’) into the mix of Jewish belief about death being non-existence and resurrection being the return from non-existence.
That’s how we get the two testaments treating death differently, and the conflation of the word “sheol” to mean hell, when it really just meant being dead.
That’s the point I was trying to make. It’s a mistranslation, or even worse, an intentional change. Even with the word there, there’s enough context to make it clear that the punishment for denying christ is death, not eternal life. “Hell” is eternal, in the sense that you’re dead forever. Those who are not written in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death. That’s what it says. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to change the definition of the word death to mean eternal life and torture, where it takes none to acknowledge that you die.
So if im already in hell and while I’m being tortured for eternity I can be like “I’m sorry for detonating Canada in 2052 jesus” and he be like “lmao no prob fam up you go”
The point is that you’re not tortured for eternity. That idea didn’t become popular until Southern Baptist started traveling the states with their fire and brimstone sermons. You are killed, obliterated, dead, for eternity. Game over.
You are absolutely correct. The original Hebrew word in the Bible for hell is Sheol, which means grave, or place of resting. He even says “this is the second death”. You don’t get eternal life, except through accepting him, according to the scripture.
Well it’s not their word for hell, that’s the point. It means death or grave, the idea of hell wasn’t even considered until the Greek started being converted in the first and second century and folded their ideas about the afterlife (including their underworld ‘hel’) into the mix of Jewish belief about death being non-existence and resurrection being the return from non-existence.
That’s how we get the two testaments treating death differently, and the conflation of the word “sheol” to mean hell, when it really just meant being dead.
That’s the point I was trying to make. It’s a mistranslation, or even worse, an intentional change. Even with the word there, there’s enough context to make it clear that the punishment for denying christ is death, not eternal life. “Hell” is eternal, in the sense that you’re dead forever. Those who are not written in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death. That’s what it says. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to change the definition of the word death to mean eternal life and torture, where it takes none to acknowledge that you die.
So if im already in hell and while I’m being tortured for eternity I can be like “I’m sorry for detonating Canada in 2052 jesus” and he be like “lmao no prob fam up you go”
The point is that you’re not tortured for eternity. That idea didn’t become popular until Southern Baptist started traveling the states with their fire and brimstone sermons. You are killed, obliterated, dead, for eternity. Game over.