Which is hilarious because for decades the party line has been to not allow the Iranians because they’re not rational. They still aren’t but neither is Israel.
Israel has right extremists in its government but it’s still a democracy with functioning justice and free elections, as opposed to Iran. Not very different from the USA, who also had governments destroying the lives of millions of people, but it’s still a (flawed) democracy.
Even when ethnic cleansing isn’t actively going on, it’s not a democratic state if any group of people native to the land are banned from voting, can’t travel freely, and have a separate justice system that applies only to them. Iran wouldn’t have been in the state it’s in if the US hadn’t staged a coup there because they didn’t like the leftist leader people democratically elected.
Iran wouldn’t have been in the state it’s in if the US hadn’t staged a coup there because they didn’t like the leftist leader people democratically elected.
What is the point of your link? Can you not state what part of what I said that you disagree with? Regardless of what we might think of Iran now, it is a documented fact that the US & UK set the stage for, and then backed the coup against Mossaddegh to further the interests of their financial elites. My point was that the US is no paragon of democracy. If you want to disprove something about that, you should be more specific about what you believe was incorrect.
Wars have been going on in Iran since forever. There was a brief slice of westernization for less than a decade in the 70s, those pictures of rich people in the capital city center everyone’s oohs and aahs over, we did that. USSR was doing their best to exert their influence and turn Iran into a communist nation, and a handful of small groups were vying to take communism out of the equation. We funded them, although I’m sure money was coming in from more than one or two nations as Iran is a very important global geopolitical chess piece, and it eventually fell apart.
No, the US is not a paradigm of democracy, and yes we will do what we need to, to prevent anyone else from becoming the dominant global superpower. Expect war with China by late 2027.
He’s a fucking nutjob, but if Putin and his boy in NK aren’t pushing the button, I’d wager you don’t need to spend all your energy on this facet of what’s happening.
Not going to tell you how to feel. Just that with all the likely terrible shit in front of us, you can focus your existential dread somewhere more concrete like water wars, trump 2, you know, something casual lol
Here’s what everyone should be worried about given this talk:
Israel has nuclear weapons, and the U.S. has worked hard to ensure opposing countries like Iran would not be able to have them.
And now Israel’s government is under the thumb of a bunch of genocidal maniacs who don’t give a shit about anything.
I’m thinking we all ought to invest in civil defense, or have some kind of plan B.
Which is hilarious because for decades the party line has been to not allow the Iranians because they’re not rational. They still aren’t but neither is Israel.
Israel has right extremists in its government but it’s still a democracy with functioning justice and free elections, as opposed to Iran. Not very different from the USA, who also had governments destroying the lives of millions of people, but it’s still a (flawed) democracy.
Even when ethnic cleansing isn’t actively going on, it’s not a democratic state if any group of people native to the land are banned from voting, can’t travel freely, and have a separate justice system that applies only to them. Iran wouldn’t have been in the state it’s in if the US hadn’t staged a coup there because they didn’t like the leftist leader people democratically elected.
I think you need to brush up on your history a bit my friend, here’s a good starting point: https://www.britannica.com/event/Iranian-Revolution
What is the point of your link? Can you not state what part of what I said that you disagree with? Regardless of what we might think of Iran now, it is a documented fact that the US & UK set the stage for, and then backed the coup against Mossaddegh to further the interests of their financial elites. My point was that the US is no paragon of democracy. If you want to disprove something about that, you should be more specific about what you believe was incorrect.
*small edit for clarity
Wars have been going on in Iran since forever. There was a brief slice of westernization for less than a decade in the 70s, those pictures of rich people in the capital city center everyone’s oohs and aahs over, we did that. USSR was doing their best to exert their influence and turn Iran into a communist nation, and a handful of small groups were vying to take communism out of the equation. We funded them, although I’m sure money was coming in from more than one or two nations as Iran is a very important global geopolitical chess piece, and it eventually fell apart.
No, the US is not a paradigm of democracy, and yes we will do what we need to, to prevent anyone else from becoming the dominant global superpower. Expect war with China by late 2027.
Nobody’s free until everyone is free. Apartheid governments are not functioning democracies.
And war crimes. Don’t forget the long history of war crimes.
That’s what my last sentence implied.
He’s a fucking nutjob, but if Putin and his boy in NK aren’t pushing the button, I’d wager you don’t need to spend all your energy on this facet of what’s happening.
I sincerely wish you were right, but those two are specifically why I’m worried.
Not going to tell you how to feel. Just that with all the likely terrible shit in front of us, you can focus your existential dread somewhere more concrete like water wars, trump 2, you know, something casual lol