• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Because it’s a very weird distinction to be taught in a religion? “Yes, Mary agreed to having sex but she did not agree to getting pregnant.” This just doesn’t make sense at a time when women were treated worse than a man’s property.

    Mary did not consent to any of this in the story.

    So like, did she say no? Were guards sent to capture her? I’m genuinely curious about the story being told, but all you’ve people done was tell me “she didn’t consent.” Is that it? Is that what the Bible says?

    The fact that you people are so averse to sharing this simple information with me makes me dubious of its existence.

    I’m willing to be proven wrong though!

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      1 year ago

      Ffs you could have just read the biblical account by now. First chapter of Luke and Matthew. I am done spoon-feeding and enabling your laziness

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        I read those and it doesn’t say she was raped.

        I also did an internet search because you seem pretty useless, “was Mary raped in the Bible” and the only explanations I am seeing for that is that she was underage. This is what I asked about in the beginning of this comment chain.

        I feel like if it was so clear and obvious Mary was raped in the Bible, it would be easier to find information on it!

        But that’s okay. It’s already clear you’re lying and that’s why you keep trying to send me on a wild goose chase. I’ve seen it many times, and it happens pretty much without fail when pressing people like you for evidence to support their claims.

        Here’s a little Reddit thread that’s very similar: https://old.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/xqzsoh/was_mary_raped_by_god/

        Looks like everyone who says she was raped say it’s only because she was underage. You’re afraid to admit that’s the only reason why because you are arguing in bad-faith (heh.)

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          1 year ago

          Dog, she was impregnated by the holy ghost without consent. I don’t believe that actually happened, but that’s what the bible says…

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            1 year ago

            Luke 1:38 ‘And Mary said, “Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.”

            This was mentioned as evidence that she consented. Do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

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              Seems like a bit of a power dynamic problem… one could argue Job consented to all his bad treatment by trusting in the lord. Abraham was gonna kill his son. But I’d wager if I asked them, as a stranger, there’s no way any of them would consent. It’s the threat of etarnal fire that inspires such devotion and sacrifice. Bit of an unhealthy relationship if you ask me… my Christian parents are happy to ruin their lives for a better afterlife - including eroding their relationships with their kids. Bit sad. If I did believe in a god, I wouldn’t believe that he sent us here to make us suffer and make sacrifices.

              But you are correct, the gospel I was looking at didn’t mention Mary giving consent. Just one of the problems of having 4 conflicting accounts…