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    This is not enshittification. Here’s where the term came from:

    Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification

    In what way is adding an AI assistant to Notepad either “abusing their users” or “abusing their business customers?” It seems like it’s just a useful new feature to me, that’s still in the “be good to your users” phase.

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      But… MUH BUZZWORDS!

      (I really hate the Reddit-style overuse of that word.)

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            “Fuck around and find out” for everyone else who didn’t know.

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              Ahhhh THAT overused phrase. Of course we’d have to acronym/initiaism it.

              At least we don’t (yet) have PSGWSP. Ugh it felt gross typing that.

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        I do too, considering it never needed a new term to begin with. This isn’t a new concept, and we already have a name for it: rent seeking

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      I like Cory Doctorow. I think his theory of enshittification is useful, but I find his definition flawed.

      • Why is it limited to platforms? Can’t enshittification apply to other things like applications?
      • Are business customers really required or can that step be skipped?
      • The platforms dying thing isn’t what we are seeing. For example, Amazon is absolutely enshittified. They’re not dead. More like undead, continuing to shamble on consuming everything.

      I still give credit to Cory for being an acute observer and coming up with a useful theory.

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        There is no need to coin a new term, when “rent seeking” has done just fine for hundreds of years now.

        This is not a new concept.

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          I completely forgot about that term. That may be more accurate. In fact, it describes what has Windows has become.

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      Adding an AI seems OK but per the article it will do it similar to Paint Co-creator. I can already see those types of “features” will get promoted more and more in updates and take more part of the screen.

      Microsoft will want revenue trickling in from Notepad of all places…

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      AI assistants usually need to upload the data to process it. So it’s potential enshitification via adding data upload/harvesting features to a trusted offline text editor. Usually companies have ways to generate revenue streams based on the data from these “free and useful features”. Adverts based on what text files you open might be the long term end goal.

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          That would be fine, but a lot of these features are added in an update, with complicated setups or mods to turn them off. Start bar local app search now gets sent to bing search by default, thats almost never what people want. Most people wont know how to disable it or care. But I guess thats fine as long as Microsoft gets to increase its bing usage stats and collect more user data.

          To be clear, my problem is with these features getting pushed as default enabled.

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      What about privacy and bloat? Do you really need an integrated big-brother Clippy again? There’s a reason they got rid of that annoying little bugger 20-ish years ago. Even killed Cortana. How many failed experiments more do we need?

      If you need AI writing, you have it in Edge or on the ChatGPT site. Will they add AI to settings to help you turn on all the bloat and tracking for you?

      Like just give me my damn control panel which has a working search feature (unlike, say, Settings)

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        Do you really need an integrated big-brother Clippy again?

        You’re making some pretty big assumptions about what this feature will be like.