You mean the same China that’s currently the only major nation with an actual plan to transition off fossil fuels that’s being implemented at scale as we speak?
Meanwhile US/EU overwhelmingly responsible for emissions despite outsourcing a bunch of their production to countries like China.
Top 10 Countries with the Highest CO₂ Emissions in the World (Unit: million tons CO₂) - 2020 EDGAR:*
China - 11,680.42
United States - 4,535.30
India - 2,411.73
Russia - 1,674.23
Japan - 1,061.77
Iran - 690.24
Germany - 636.88
South Korea - 621.47
Saudi Arabia - 588.81
Indonesia - 568.27
Compare per capita, also adjust it with trade (i mean for whom exactly the production and therefore emissions happens) and finally look at the historical emissions.
What are historical emissions supposed to tell you about economic systems? Also, the per capita emissions for China aren’t exactly stellar at around 8 tons/person/year. Yes, I know there are trade adjustments to do to better represent Chinese consumption.
But does that not tell you more about where China was economically in the past than anything to do with connections between its economic system and its emissions? After all, there are plenty of countries with similar per capita histories that are fully capitalist.
It tells me how much pollution particular states released in the past. We of course could divide this by the time/capita etc, and it would still not look bad for China, considering for how short they are industrialised country, but the point of historical emission is just simple showing who polluted more overall.
I’ve found this point amazingly hard to beat into people’s noggins. Some will even say that per capita doesn’t matter, and give some bullshit reason. The lack of logical thinking astounds me.
Theoretically, sure. Realistically, see China.
You mean the same China that’s currently the only major nation with an actual plan to transition off fossil fuels that’s being implemented at scale as we speak?
China’s also doing most of reforestation in the world
Meanwhile US/EU overwhelmingly responsible for emissions despite outsourcing a bunch of their production to countries like China.
Top 10 Countries with the Highest CO₂ Emissions in the World (Unit: million tons CO₂) - 2020 EDGAR:*
Compare per capita, also adjust it with trade (i mean for whom exactly the production and therefore emissions happens) and finally look at the historical emissions.
What are historical emissions supposed to tell you about economic systems? Also, the per capita emissions for China aren’t exactly stellar at around 8 tons/person/year. Yes, I know there are trade adjustments to do to better represent Chinese consumption.
It shows who exactly is more responsible for the climate change overall, since the planet is not resetting itself every year.
But does that not tell you more about where China was economically in the past than anything to do with connections between its economic system and its emissions? After all, there are plenty of countries with similar per capita histories that are fully capitalist.
It tells me how much pollution particular states released in the past. We of course could divide this by the time/capita etc, and it would still not look bad for China, considering for how short they are industrialised country, but the point of historical emission is just simple showing who polluted more overall.
Sure, see above.
Oooh what a gotcha! Now compare populations.
learn what per capita means so you stop embarrassing yourself
I’ve found this point amazingly hard to beat into people’s noggins. Some will even say that per capita doesn’t matter, and give some bullshit reason. The lack of logical thinking astounds me.
Surprise, surprise:
Top 10 Countries with the Highest CO₂ Emissions Per Capita (Unit: million tons CO₂) - 2020 EDGAR:
You are welcome.
I like to source my claims instead of pulling them out of my ass, you’re welcome:
https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/