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    I have people follow me to my car at the grocery store when they notice I’m in a good spot (there are other, less desirable spots available, mind you). I take my sweet time loading my bags make sure nothing will tip over in transit. And during the time I’m loading, sometimes I decide I need something from the adjacent liquor store.

    I’ve never understood why people sit and wait for spots when there’s spots available. Drive around. If someone is pulling out, sure, but don’t watch people load their shit up.

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      I’ve noticed people who are constantly trying to ‘cheat’ their way in life end up falling behind those who just do things the normal way.

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        Yeah and they all work at my company. I swear to God there’s people who put more time and effort into avoiding doing work than it would be to just do the work. The worst is when they get angry at me for how long it takes for me to do their job.

        Anyway I probably should get back to searching for another job…

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        Oh you nailed it. Every millionaire worked hard and earned it. None of them just cheat or work the system. There’s so much wisdom in this comment

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          I don’t know if there are just a bunch of bootlickers out today, or are they all autistic from getting the jab and don’t understand sarcasm.

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            Can’t wait until they do an IQ test of people who trust vaccines vs those that don’t 😅

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      Whenever someone is waiting for me to unload my groceries and move, I suddenly have the urge to check my messages and catch up on some blah blah blah. Doesn’t really matter what.

      The moment the person moves on, I remember what I was doing. Doesn’t matter if they immediately do a u turn and snag it, that’s not the point.

      The point is I’m petty and you can do a lap.

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      Well, some people are lazy, but some people like me have a kid that would benefit from a closer spot.

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        I got two. I park where there’s three open spots together to avoid altogether even the small possibility of a door making contact with an adjacent vehicle. I feel you though, I do also like to get them off the blacktop sooner rather than later.

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          ya, I remembered when my kid was 1 1/2 and wanted to walk everywhere. He almost got ran over by some dipshit in a BMW. So, I always try and park closer to the building.

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            Yeah, parking lots are worse than roads sometimes. And kids also lack in the self preservation department sometimes too.

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      At the Costco by me following a person to their car is the only way to get a spot… The parking lot legitimately fills completely, unless you’re willing to park very far away where there aren’t even cart returns…

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        The parking lot legitimately fills completely, unless you’re willing to park very far away

        So, it doesn’t fill completely…

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          I see the guy said Texas after so probably, but where I live you would have to park outside the anti shipping cart theft wheel lock zone.

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          I don’t think you get the scale of parking lots in Texas, or how far back you’d have to walk to return your cart at that point. I’m not even sure that part of the parking area isn’t technically the next restaurant’s lot instead.

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              Okay yeah, I’m a bit more awake now. I don’t want to walk, and if you’re packing up your car, I think it’s fair for me to wait patiently for you to finish up to take your spot. You’re already clearly intending to leave, and I don’t mind if you take a minute to set up your GPS or whatever, it’s not like I’m honking at you.

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                Yeah, not sure why you’ve been absolutely blasted by downvoters. How is someone silently waiting for another to vacate a spot they’ve indicated they will soon be leaving some harsh, aggressive gesture? Somehow, the silent, vague “pressure” that someone is also interested in something they’ve temporarily occupied is distressing. Public bathrooms must be hell for them.

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                  Honestly, your point is way better than mine, and even you’ve received downvotes for it. Like, bathroom lines exist. Sucks if you have shy bladder, but that doesn’t make the person behind you need to pee any less either.

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        unless you’re willing to park very far away where there aren’t even cart returns…

        Gosh, you have to WALK and even RETURN YOUR CART?

        Oh, the humanity!

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        And that’s an issue with that Costco and that sucks, I’ve certainly been to places where there’s just too much traffic that the lot cannot support it. My local grocery store just isn’t like this. If you move down the aisle you’ll find spots, just 100 feet more of a walk.

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          Not in California dude too many people not enough land.

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            Must be different in your part of California, where I’m at it isn’t an issue at all… Almost always plenty of spaces if you’re willing to walk an extra fifty feet and people will still camp for better spots in perfect weather. It’s honestly maddening.

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        Yeah, I don’t sit and block traffic because I’m too lazy to find another spot. “Do unto others,” you know? I don’t like being made to move faster because you just need this spot.

        EDIT: And hold up, you’ll move your car and load it? So you will leave your groceries just in a cart, go and move your car to some further spot, and load it there? How is that at all the right thing to do? Where are you moving your car to, an empty spot? Like, one the person who’s sitting there waiting could’ve parked their car?

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            Yeah, maybe I don’t understand what you mean on the second point. But aisle widths where I’m from run 20-24 feet for two-way traffic, and while, sure, you can fit three side by side, you’re getting tight, and the lot is full of folks who generally don’t understand the size of their vehicle and so you get a bottleneck. I just think waiting for a spot is rude, and you apparently feel differently, and that’s fine. If it means anything, I’m not downvoting you, I think we’re having a discussion, one that I started in particular, and I’m always down to talk about things that are ultimately pretty meaningless, because it’s much better than talking about things that matter.

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        No, sorry, the dick move is sitting around blocking all traffic while you wait for someone to load their car. You don’t even know for sure they’re about to leave, they may have forgotten something and need to run back in. Or may have various other reasons that it takes a few minutes to finish and back out that you have no way of knowing.

        Forcing everyone behind you to wait for you to get your desired spot is incredibly self centered and arrogant.

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    My sister and I were eating at a popular bagel place (buy at front, find your own table). Finishing up, one of us stood up to put on a jacket, woman from a table at the side immediately comes over and sits down, staking the ‘better’ table. No hello, no may I take your seat, just a Karen sit n grab.

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      That’s when you sit in her lap and say oh I didn’t see you, I was just chilly and put on my coat - I’ll be here for a few more hours

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      Ah, you’ve met my ex. She’s horrible at this, hovering or whatnot. I on the other had walk up, hey folks I’d really like to grab your seats after you’re done and just didn’t want to hover. Almost always get it.

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        100% would give you my seat for asking politely rather than sniping

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      Seems like a cultural difference. Don’t be mad at her. Be mad at something else.

      Edit: lol the amount of down votes I got is cracking me up.

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        The fuck are you talking about? Nobody’s culture is even mentioned here. What do you propose we should be mad about that isn’t the rude person intruding on personal space without the slightest hint of a polite formality.

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        Yeah I’d imagine this is very broadly accepted in other countries, like Karenland.

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    (to staff) I’ll tip you $100 to string that hag along, keep feeding me coffee, come and “ask” me about operations when they’re in earshot and then tell her I’m the owner and will sit where I damn well want.

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      If you’re the owner though, giving up your seat to a customer isn’t even a question, it’s a must.

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        That’s the funny part, if I’m the owner, I can do whatever I want. “It’s a must”? Too bad, it’s my restaurant and I want to sit here. “You’re being rude to a customer” I’m being rude to this customer, too bad.

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          Often the best thing you can do as a business owner is to “fire” your bad customers.

          Often 90% of complaints come from 1% of customers. The amount of manpower wasted dealing with the complaints is not worth the sales - and these kinds of customers are always so shocked and appalled when you tell them that you don’t need their business.

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        Negative. Owner can do whatever they want with their business. That kind of attitude enables and empowers the entitled Karens, and I’m very happy to frequent establishments where the staff isn’t harried and stressed af, even if it means I might have to gasp wait a few minutes at the host stand to be seen, or don’t get bent over backwards for

        We’re all humans, the money in your pocket doesn’t entitle you to a rent-a-slave experience for a meal, and I’ve never worked a customer facing job a day in my life

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        Or… what? Are you going to demand to speak to the business owner’s manager? Lol

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        Even the employees don’t have to give up their seats to customers. Let alone the owner.

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          I never said it was law, I’m saying you’re a shit business owner if you rather do “whatever the fuck I want” instead of making money off customers

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        LOL you’re on crack. The whole point of owning a business is that you can do whatever the fuck you want (within the law). There is no requirement to give tables up to customers.

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    Just say, “Sorry, I’m working from home today.”

    Leave her upset and confused.

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    If both parties are reasonable people, there’s nothing wrong with vacating your seat so someone can have it if you’re done with that seat. It depends on how she asked because you’re not entitled to kindness or generosity if you’re a bully or rude. Since he seemed to have mind it, I am guessing either she asked rudely or he perceived rudeness in her ask.

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      It depends on how she asked

      Everyone is saying this, but OP put the exact quote in quotation marks and it is clearly not friendly at all in any situation.

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        Yeah I agree if that’s literally all she said, or I don’t know if he cut her sentence and only used the bit in his post that offended him.

        I just know that sometimes if you look a certain way and dress a certain way people assume you’re rude no matter what you actually do or say. This happens a lot with young women because of sexism. Like if you’re not a soft spoken “good girl” you’re taken for a bitch.

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          That’s fair, we don’t know the exact situation so either she was actually rude or OP is exaggerating.

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      I don’t think there is a proper way to ask. Leave people that are eating alone so they can enjoy their meal. Even if you ask nicely, you are still putting pressure on the person eating. If you need to be seated a specific time go to a restaurant with reservations.

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        “excuse me, I see you’re almost done eating. Are you planning on leaving soon? No? Okay, thank you.”

        It’s not about the ask, it’s about taking the “no” gracefully.

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          Or you could just wait for a seat to open up and take it, because if you’re “asking correctly”, in which you aren’t pressuring anyone to leave, the end result would be exactly the same.

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            The result of getting a table or not remains the same, but knowing whether or not to pay attention to that table leaving is different. It could mean waiting for that table or going to another area in to see if another table is leaving or open.

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        Yeah, I think asking creates too many opportunities for conflict, so I agree.

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          By that logic, you shouldn’t ask anything ever. “Opportunities for conflict”?

          There is no conflict if you accept a “no.” The impotus on preventing a conflict isn’t in the ask, it’s in accepting the answer.

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    If someone honked at my grandpa to hurry up, he’d put the car in park and smoke a cigar.

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    People be like “we don’t know if that exact quote is how it happened”. Duh! We don’t know if anything of that story even happened we don’t even know if the tweeter is a human or a cat.

    However it makes no sense to assume part of the story to be true and a different part not. You either for a discussion assume it to be true or not.

    For other discussion not about the situation it may make sense to only assume part of the story. But this is rarely the case.

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      You had me in the first paragraph but I call bullshit on the second. However you won me back with the third.

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      Yeah it feels like something from Seinfeld. Many things on TV are fiction but it doesn’t mean it’s not funny. Or isn’t analogous to real life scenarios that we can talk about now.

      Whether or not anything described actually happened is irrelevant.

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      precisely. there was no need for her to stress out OP by telling him he had to hurry. she could have moved the meet to a less busy restaurant, or waited for a table to open like the rest of us, or possibly even politely asked instead of dictating rudely.

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        there was no need for her to stress out OP by telling him he had to hurry.

        Honestly I wouldn’t myself have done that to someone else, but depending on how the request was asked would depend if it was actually rude or not.

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            Just because it’s in quotes doesn’t mean that’s how it happened.

            Here’s an example:

            “it’s a quote so that’s probably exactly how bitchy she was”.

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            it’s a quote so that’s probably exactly how it was asked

            That’s an assumption, we don’t know that.

            Usually when someone’s telling a story they want to put themselves in the best of light, especially if they are criticizing someone else in the story.

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          Literally asking any stranger to finish their food sooner so you can take their seat is unacceptable.

          It just reeks of entitlement where you’re more important than them. They shouldn’t have to eat any differently because you want to have their seat.

          I can tell this was asked by a woman whose dad gave her everything she wanted.

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        she could have moved the meet to a less busy restaurant

        You really would try to do something like that with less than 15 minutes until the other persons arrival?

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          other person arrives

          Scenario 1: In those 15 minutes the likely thing happened that a table became available and the woman is waiting at it and didn’t need to interrupt and stress out anyone.

          Scenario 2: Unfortunately there’re still no seats available, so the woman proposes to her friend to either wait a bit longer or find another restaurant nearby.

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            Scenario 3: the person finishes up their meal quickly allowing the other person who is waiting for the table to have it.

            Asking someone for a favor isn’t stressing someone. If that actually does stress them then they have worse problems than being asked to finish their meal quickly.

            Be excellent with each other. The world will be a much better place if we all try to practice that.

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              Let others enjoy their meal at peace. Asking someone to “hurry up” is not a favour and extremely rude.

              If she wanted to ask for a favour, it should go something like this: “Sorry to interrupt, are you nearly finished? Could we have your seat if you are done?” And then patiently wait however long it takes for them to finish.

              Be excellent with each other.

              How does this defend the person that was being rude lol

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                How does this defend the person that was being rude lol

                Asking for a favor is not being rude (assuming if it’s been asked nicely). Especially if you’re hogging a shared resource that’s in limited supply (seating).

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                  assuming if it’s been asked nicely

                  It was not. That’s the problem, and it’s the reason for OP’s reaction.

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                Let others enjoy their meal at peace. Asking someone to “hurry up” is not a favour and extremely rude.

                Seating is a limited public resource shared by all. It’s really not that unreasonable if the restaurant is being slammed and there’s no tables available.

                At the end of the day, if you know the restaurant is so busy and table seating is a huge problem why not get in and get out quickly, and share the resource with your fellow citizens, and make everyone’s day a little better.

                There’s so much anger and hate going on right now, we really could try to be a little understanding with each other and tamping that hate down.

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                  A restaurant is a private business and their seating is private, I don’t believe any restaurant would be happy with some random trying to hurry on their customers.

                  If a customer is taking excessive time it would be up to the staff to request them to move on.

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                  At the end of the day, if you know the restaurant is so busy and table seating is a huge problem…

                  … why not make plans with a backup restaurant in mind if you’re meeting up with friends, just in case it’s full already like it often is?

                  What if every other table was already occupied by people meeting friends. They’re all entitled to be there. This lady only bullied OP and told him to hurry up because he was there alone. And what you’re saying is that if you’re alone, you’re not really entitled to use shared resources beyond the absolute minimum necessary?

                  You’re calling for mutual understanding while supporting the position of someone who demonstrably has none as she goes around ordering people to leave public spaces becauss they think they’re more important. ‘Mutual understanding’ is revoked when it’s clear the other party only wants to abuse it.

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                  Because people pay to eat their food and don’t want to get forced to move by people who think their lives are more important than others. If the meeting is so important, make a reservation.

                  Your failure to plan is not my problem. I don’t owe you any favors.

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                Balderdash. Poppycock, even.

                If you do Humanuty right, it becomes an “Excelsior!” existence.

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          yes. it is not everyone else’s responsibility to reshape reality to accommodate me. if the restaurant I’m meeting a friend at is full when we both get there, and it looks like the wait will be too long for us, we go to a backup location. sometimes that happens. it’s life. at no point do we assume a position of superiority and arrogance and start accosting already-seated patrons issuing orders to vacate to make room for us. that would make me and my friends pieces of shit.

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          Yes? I’ve done that tons of times when I get to a restaurant and it turns out to be crowded I’ll call whoever I’m meeting and work out an alternative.

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            Yes? I’ve done that tons of times when I get to a restaurant and it turns out to be crowded I’ll call whoever I’m meeting and work out an alternative.

            With less than 15 minutes ago, when they may already have been pulling into a parking garage?

            I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I’m just speaking towards how much time was left until the appointment time, hard to handle changes on the fly with so little time left. Not impossible, but hard.

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              Any restaurant I’ve been to that has a parking garage also had half a dozen other place within walking distance. Changing venue isn’t really an issue unless they all are crowded in which case that’s on us for planning poorly. Even if there’s not another place within walking distance driving to another location is trivial. 15 minutes is more than enough time.