The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn’t a genocidal maniac, yet he’s all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn’t just “we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum.”

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

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    The answer is simple and almost no one gets it: The U.S. will NEVER give up a military foothold in the middle east. They will ignore every atrocity Israel commits if it means we have a place to sortie from.

    That’s it.

    It’s not a religious conspiracy, it’s not about back room money deals.

    It’s about military power and our ability to strike anywhere in the world with 2 hours notice.

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      This is the most simple answer and the truth. Not only that, but our hands are generally tied to a fault when it comes to these allies. This is why Biden has had some words to say, but there’s no actual teeth to them. He literally can’t do shit. Any other administration would be the same.

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        Well, Trump might do something because he’s willing to break any and all precedents … but the something he does would likely be much worse, impulsive, and generally lacking much forethought.

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        Yeah but that won’t prevent every fuckdamn armchair admiral from weighing in with their wikipedia based knowledge.

        The problem is that those trolls are significantly out-shouting the truth.

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        No he CAN do something, he can say fuck you, and let someone else run while he does the right thing regardless of the cost to his career

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          It wouldn’t be the cost to his career, it would be the loss of military access to the most volatile place on the planet.

          Do you even bother understanding the concepts you comment on?

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            We have other bases in the Middle East, we don’t need them for a foothold.

            We can walk in, whip our dick out and ask who wants to be our new friend and under our protection.

            Israel is ignoring us anyway so I see no harm.

            Fall in line or fuck around and find out when we allow them to be outlaws and retract our protection.

            Sends a message while we are at it.

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              … there is literally no military strategist in our armed forces that agree with your assessment.

              Please don’t mistake your wikipedia education for a nuanced and in-depth understanding.

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                Because they have no intention of changing anything why would they look for another way?

                They all keep getting rich off backroom deals with weapon companies