I think this is perfect. Make it legal but non-commercial. It should not be allowed to make a profit off of other people’s addiction and there shouldn’t be financial incentives to get people addicted as quickly as possible.
I wish they would do the same for alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc.
I would be very careful with that. Not official alcohol for example can be very dangerous if the person making it does not know about methanol, which is toxic. If it is not destilled properly, it can end up in the final mix and cause dangerous problems.
I guess it goes with other drugs as well. People will still make a profit from it, just without taxes. It’s just easier to justify having some plants at home. So the state is missing out on drug taxes, which could be quite high (lol).
So by creating drug stores, where you can buy controlled, legal drugs would be a lot mor profitable for the state, healthier for society and better for the consumer.
This half assed weird regulation will be used by the conservative parties to justify blocking further legalisation by arguing it’s already free I guess
Ah yeah because dealers didnt exist before? Also it will be allowed to run non profit clubs to grow weed as a community. And you can grow it at home so no incentive for underground markets at all. Dealers are gonna slowly disappear if anything.
I think this is fine because while people should be allowed to do light drugs I don’t mind making them jump through some hoops so that it’s not that convenient. Alcohol and nicotine are definitely way too accessible and it affects perception of this law.
I use cannabis in Poland where we accidentally legalized it by allowing doctors to prescribe it online which combined with corruption means anyone who wants it can get it but it’s not so obvious unless you’re interested. It’s a surprisingly OK compromise.
Well, who’s gonna pay for your medical care when you inevitably develop drug problems/health issues.
So in a socialized healthcare system, you are harming others with it.
(And not offering treatment or making the patient pay for it which they often won’t be able to, would be very inhumane imo)
10 Dutch cities legalised weed not too long ago. They legalised the production and sale. The coffee shops and other shops in those cities all sell 100% legal weed. So, yeah…
@novibe Also, (I think,) weed is technically still illegal in the Netherlands, but for example possession up to 5g is tolerated by simply not enforcing the law.
Germany on the other hand fully legalized possession of up to 25g (50g).
I think they for sure are gonna change it. That really makes no sense. One plant will can give more than that if you even marginally know what you’re doing.
@novibe Yes, but that’s still just experimental / in a testing phase and how most coffee shops operate currently is a legal grey area. And I don’t expect that to change soon, because ultimately they can’t fully legalize cannabis for the same reasons Germany could not: it would conflict with EU regulations.
as a german i feel divided, on one hand its a step in the right direction, on the other hand it doesn’t go remotely far enough in my opinion.
I think this is perfect. Make it legal but non-commercial. It should not be allowed to make a profit off of other people’s addiction and there shouldn’t be financial incentives to get people addicted as quickly as possible.
I wish they would do the same for alcohol, tobacco, gambling, etc.
I would be very careful with that. Not official alcohol for example can be very dangerous if the person making it does not know about methanol, which is toxic. If it is not destilled properly, it can end up in the final mix and cause dangerous problems. I guess it goes with other drugs as well. People will still make a profit from it, just without taxes. It’s just easier to justify having some plants at home. So the state is missing out on drug taxes, which could be quite high (lol).
So by creating drug stores, where you can buy controlled, legal drugs would be a lot mor profitable for the state, healthier for society and better for the consumer.
This half assed weird regulation will be used by the conservative parties to justify blocking further legalisation by arguing it’s already free I guess
There are definitely financial incentives, they are just underground now. Which is worse in every way.
Ah yeah because dealers didnt exist before? Also it will be allowed to run non profit clubs to grow weed as a community. And you can grow it at home so no incentive for underground markets at all. Dealers are gonna slowly disappear if anything.
I think this is fine because while people should be allowed to do light drugs I don’t mind making them jump through some hoops so that it’s not that convenient. Alcohol and nicotine are definitely way too accessible and it affects perception of this law.
I use cannabis in Poland where we accidentally legalized it by allowing doctors to prescribe it online which combined with corruption means anyone who wants it can get it but it’s not so obvious unless you’re interested. It’s a surprisingly OK compromise.
I think if you’re not harming anyone else you should be allowed to do whatever you want. I don’t see, why drugs are prohibited in the first place.
Well, who’s gonna pay for your medical care when you inevitably develop drug problems/health issues. So in a socialized healthcare system, you are harming others with it.
(And not offering treatment or making the patient pay for it which they often won’t be able to, would be very inhumane imo)
The same that pays for alcoholics, injuries from extreme sports and people suffering from heart attacks because of an unhealthy lifestyle already?
It’s easy to harm other people by doing drugs. For example, a parent who smokes will make life worse for their child.
Thats not people doing drugs, thats parents being harmful.
@WallEx @misk As far as I see it, it is still (probably) the most liberal cannabis legislation in the EU. So… yay.
10 Dutch cities legalised weed not too long ago. They legalised the production and sale. The coffee shops and other shops in those cities all sell 100% legal weed. So, yeah…
@novibe Also, (I think,) weed is technically still illegal in the Netherlands, but for example possession up to 5g is tolerated by simply not enforcing the law.
Germany on the other hand fully legalized possession of up to 25g (50g).
Yes but in the cities that legalised it the limits are different. For growing and possession.
I wonder how it works given you can grow up to three plants, but the yield from that would be far more than 25g
I think they for sure are gonna change it. That really makes no sense. One plant will can give more than that if you even marginally know what you’re doing.
@novibe Yes, but that’s still just experimental / in a testing phase and how most coffee shops operate currently is a legal grey area. And I don’t expect that to change soon, because ultimately they can’t fully legalize cannabis for the same reasons Germany could not: it would conflict with EU regulations.
But wouldn’t it be possible for cities to legalize it locally only then? Like… every city?