• Gigan@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That’s disappointing. I hate apple, but I’d love to see more competition in the EV market

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      10 months ago

      More? 22 brands released EVs last year alone. There are a LOT of options out there, with more to come. Apple would have been like, the 4,000th entrant in this market.

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        10 months ago

        And what the EV market needs is a Model T, reliable and affordable. Not all these luxury models that go 0-60 in 3 seconds.

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          10 months ago

          The Chevy Bolt is an EV that sells for less than $30,000 and gets 250 miles of range on a charge. The base model is even under $20,000 after the tax subsidy.

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              Yes, after a 7-year run they are retooling the factory for electric trucks, while committing to bringing a second generation Bolt to market sometime in 2025. Who knows if they’ll pull it off, but the sub-$30k EV market is going to grow with or without Chevy/GM.

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          There’s a tidal wave of “cheap and good enough” Chinese EVs starting to sweep the global market, fulfilling pretty much what you said. The new BYD Qin retails for $15,000.

          If the US puts up protectionist trade barriers, the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world.

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            the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world

            Already is lol. Ford I believe sells one car in the USA now, the Mustang. But they still sell plenty of cars overseas, including things like the Focus ST Estate that we never got here.

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          You are asking for a Prius Prime and/or RAV4 prime.

          Which are super reliable and selling like hotcakes for a reason.

          Push the ‘EV’ button and both Prius Prime and RAV4 prime will drive in electric only mode.

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              Nearest Prius Prime SE 2024 to my house is $34,604.

              Top-hit from Carfax.com.


              I don’t think you’ll find Electric or PHEV at much lower than this in the USA. If you want a cheap daily driver, buy a Chevy Trax or something. ICE is way, way way cheaper still.

              But if you care about electrification, going north of $30k is expected.

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                  Well yeah. I don’t think EVs are for the mass consumer yet. They remain quite expensive and remain unreliable.

                  Hybrids, like Toyota Corolla Hybrid, get 50+ mpg and are only $24k. If you can’t afford PHEV or EV, then drop down to the next tier. Hybrids exist for a reason and will have significant emissions saving / carbon emissions reduction compared to a normal car, by simply burning a fraction of the gasoline of a normal car.


                  I also don’t believe that we can buy or consumer our way out of this problem. Your actual biggest way to minimize your emissions is to find a bus.

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        10 months ago

        But their Cars would Cost ten Times as much and still there would be someone cultists defending the price

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      10 months ago

      Sure. There’s lots of competition in the EV market, but one more player wouldn’t hurt.