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My internet experience has been slower since switching to Mastodon and Lemmy/Kbin. And it’s so nice. The things I see are more interesting. The conversations are usually more well thought out. And lowest common denominator dopamine content isn’t being driven into my eyeballs by Algorithms. I’ve legitimately been happier since the Reddit API debacle.
Long live the Old Internet.
Seriously, it feels like 1999 internet. And I’m loving it!
Now give us EverQuest for that proper 1999 experience!
Ever try Project 1999?
Super, super impressive.
Most web apps, especially social media - get that peak and then have this huge falloff (see Threads for a particularly grisly example). Lemmy seems really good at keeping its user base.
It reminds me that I need to contribute posts more often myself. I’m think the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.
the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.
Same. I’ve had some success with starting or reviving communities just by posting and commenting regularly, interspersed with a few cross-posts to related communities. Be the change you want to see in the world, and I hope more users will come!
I feel like a big hurdle is the way you have to type out cross posts. There was just something elegant about Reddits solution: /r/subreddit.
I’m pretty sure that 130 million monthly users was the absolute peak, which lasted for all of about 5 days.
See:
https://www.similarweb.com/amp/blog/insights/social-media-news/threads-first-month/
That’s old data. Threads suffered for a month but was fine. This is more recent. 141 million MAU https://famewall.io/statistics/threads-stats/
Lemmy is probably the best fedidiverse project so far and it’s not even close
just wish the default ui was better (i currently use photon)
I think the default UI is fine but the good thing is that neither of us are forced to use any UI - we are free to have third party apps and stuff like that :)
The sad thing is the users in the comments on Reddit was starting to sour my mood before I switched.
I’m using Alexandrite, find it good
It’s about as good as old reddit!? Isn’t that what people want? A website straight out of the early 2000s.😁
EDIT: probably cheaper to host for sure.
I too use Photon when on PC. However I do believe the majority of users here - too liked the old reddit style of things, and might there also like the default look of lemmy? I’m only guessing here though!
I remember people whining that lemmy is on its decline already. We are back and here to stay
(Edit typo)
I don’t think that initial peak was ever “real” anyway. I think it was due to people creating multiple accounts on different instances (or maybe even claiming multiple usernames on the same instance) before settling down with the one account they were actually going to consistently use.
Yeah that’s me. I signed up for and used beehaw for a month before switching to my current lemmy.ca. My old account would definitely be counted the same way as someone who signed up, got bored and left
There are definitely people that bounced off Lemmy for whatever reason. No idea how many though, I myself had 4 accounts on various instances before I settled on this one.
Definitely at least part of it was people who came to try it out and left (back to Reddit or wherever).
And your case too. I also did it. But we’d be 100% speculating if either of us guessed which was more common and how much.
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Yeah it’s weird to act like people were being unreasonable for pointing out that Lemmy was on a decline when the numbers quite literally showed a decline.
And it’s worth noting, no matter what the numbers say, the if users come here and it doesn’t feel as active as the numbers suggest, that’s still an issue.
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Don’t wanna do the ‘ackshually’ thing but it’s a little confusing so, I think you meant whining?
Thanks. I edited it because I sea it’s confusing (different from the typo in this comment)
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE! god dam it i was supposed to be the cool one with this gif… nicely done…
Oh my God what terrible thing to Reddit happened in February
The IPO announcement w/ shares being offered to Reddit users. Also, the deal with AI training off of user data without consent. Hard to keep track these days lol.
Reddit can’t help but treat their mods and user base like absolute shit. So while it may not be much, there will be a slow and steady drip of users over time.
Lemmy.world updated to 0.19.3, which count anyone who voted(lurker), as an active user, hence the bump in user. The same bump can be seen on january, where a lot instance started to updated to the latest version.
Well now I’m not a lurker… so uh… there…lol
I am a voter
invest … invest now!
Watching this graph more often than that of Bitcoin
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That’s it? Wow, a lot fewer people were upset about the loss of 3rd party apps than I thought. We need to add at least 3 more zeroes to that number if this place stands a chance at taking down reddit.
Does it need to?
I… kinda like lemmy the way it is I guess? Sure, I wish some niche-communities were a bit more active (looking at you, /c/malefashionadvice). But then again on Lemmy I actually feel motivated to contribute actively. Because I know my content won’t be monetized by some corporate behemoth. So maybe this is just fine the way it is?
To be fair /r/malefashionadvice turned into a circlejerk of popular people posting fits (influencers?) and very little real advice outside of a preset notion of what was acceptable.
Every once in a while I check up on what reddit looks like now.
I find the same or similar topics posted, with 600 comments instead of 30, and 570 of those 600 are just whatever’s the first thing that pops into everyone’s mind after reading the post title.
I like it better here.Both sides have their benefits, and it’s a shame there is no good best-of-both-worlds. I get where you’re coming from, I never felt the urge to participate on Reddit because it was so often just shouting into the void and getting buried in hundreds of one-word replies and in-jokes and memes. Here I feel seen, and often feel like my contribution (although mostly just small comments) makes an impact.
At the same time, a huge critical mass of a userbase is completely necessary for niche communities to survive. Maybe not as overwhelmingly massive as Reddit’s, but magnitudes larger than Lemmy has right now. Lemmy has a very distinct userbase slant and if you’re in the target audience (tech, FOSS, Linux etc) you’re probably great here. But even common interests like sports struggle for traction, and true niche stuff has an extremely tough time.
At the same time, a huge critical mass of a userbase is completely necessary for niche communities to survive. Maybe not as overwhelmingly massive as Reddit’s, but magnitudes larger than Lemmy has right now.
To confirm, you don’t think we have a minimum population base currently on Lemmy?
If so, how do you make that judgment? How are you measuring that? How are you quantifying that?
It doesn’t need to take down reddit. I’d like to see Lemmy at 1 million active users though. Just need enough critical mass to be able to branch into more smaller sublemmys which draws in the fans of those subs specifically and creates better curated content.
Yeah, 1 million would be about the right size for a better active community. 500k would probably do wonders too.
Oh, many more were upset - just too lazy to inconvenience themselves with switching platforms.
I’d say this is only half of the answer.
After browsing Lemmy for a while, you get the sense that the average user here is the type that gets upset about a social media company making changes to an API. That is a very specific type of person and you can see it in the comments.
I’d guess people get turned off by that type of person and leave.
I come here once Reddit and hacker news content is old. This isn’t a place I’d recommend to anyone, unfortunately. There are extremely strong biases all over and deep echo chambers. Users here seem like the perpetually online type. Most perspectives I’ve seen have been heavily influenced by online discourse rather than reality.
I visit this site less and less due to the user base.
The perpetually online type is on Mastodon.
Here on Lemmy are the people who disconnected from social media, block or boycott 95% of today’s internet and self-host matrix servers to discuss about self-hosting matrix servers.I don’t give a crap about the API. Reddit’s system of rando-bans are a fatal flaw to its usefullness.
I dont mean to be rude, but people that have been banned from Reddit coming here does not improve the community.
There are 2 kinds of people who get banned. People who actually deserve it and people who get rando-bans. A rando-ban is something you have no control over. It is caused by things like unwritten rules, nonsensical rules, or the unpaid intern mods having a bad day. Things that a warning could have easily taken care of. Lemmy cannot give you a rando-ban, but if you actually deserve a ban than multiple people can come together and do it.
My first rando-ban on reddit was posting too much content from the Washington Post. Even though I was only posting about 1 article per month I was “spamming”. It is wonderful knowing that on lemmy/kbin I can finally start submitting content again without risking a rando-ban.
Complains about strong bias here like it isn’t just as bad or worse on reddit.
I don’t give two shits about taking down reddit. I just want somewhere else to go, and Lemmy works for that.
If this place ends up with 70 million users, I won’t be one of them. Lemmy isn’t a for-profit company. It doesn’t need growth for the sake of growth.
Besides, lemmy growth isn’t a measure of Reddit shrinkage. Lots of people are just quitting without a replacement.
I don’t want Lemmy to go after Reddit. I want it to be its own thing.
With that being said, more users would mean having some living communities. Some major communities on lemmy.world like videos are hilariously empty, probably less so than small, local subreddits.
Old reddit isn’t dead yet
Are you trying to get the bots to migrate too?
Great news. it’s also nice to see they are more accurately counting active users with the latest update. I still think Lemmy will surpast a million active users with in a year or two.
The post/comment propaganda seems to have worked as well. Every post is way more active nowadays
I like Mastodon even more, because there are more and more serious accounts with identity behind. Here more troll talk.
It’s what I’m here for
I don’t like following people I like to follow topics
I see a lot of people posting and no one engaging with each other there. Honestly what’s the point if no one talks to each other.
Hopefully all the communities I follow on Reddit move here so I don’t have to use that site.
There might be a significant number of users here waiting for everyone else to switch over to lemmy. If you start a niche community, it’s a little easier for someone else to be like “It’s kind of empty, but it exists on lemmy too.” What you need is a critical mass of people. It usually takes time and effort to reach that, and someone must be first.
!cranetrainexcavators@lemmy.world baby. Does reddit have that? No. Didn’t think so! ;)
I think the problem is that theres a lot of niche communities created for an exodus from Reddit that didnt really happen.
If you search for a certain community and find that yeah it exists but nobody has posted there in 6 months…
It didn’t happen in one big exodus, no. But maybe in the future someone will find those old posts and decide to make a new post instead of just concluding there’s nothing and not doing anything.
I do wonder if its a help or a hinderance though.
If someone wanted to start a community they might actually do something to generate interest, nobody wants to put the effort in to build up a community that the mod can just ban them from or they look and go “Its not that theres nothing, theres just no interest.”
Very Nice! - Borat
Lets be fair, Steve Huffman did most of the work to make Lemmy so popular.
Shout out to the old r/jailbait mod for making in happen!
