• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    When I was a kid in the early 2000’s we were vibing to a funny song about a famous pedophile, watching pictures of dead people on rotten.com and ofcourse porn on the late night tv. We also had candy resembling tobacco products as well as ones with racist names.

    I think new parents especially often seem to forget all the similar things they did as a child and then apply different standards to their own kids. Yeah, it’s not optimal, but they’re probably going to grow up just fine.

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      Millennials have higher rates of mental illness than previous generations. We are far from fine.

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        I’d imagine an increasingly hostile world economy coupled with a then-looming but now beginning climate crisis might have a huge impact there.

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        There are multiple possible explanations for that. I don’t see any direct link between the kind of content we millenials consumed in our childhood and the apparent rise in the number of mental health cases. I’d be willing to bet that the time spent consuming said content plays a much bigger factor.

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            When I was younger I wasn’t sad because I was online, I was online because I was sad and felt out of place in reality.

            The cough isn’t the cause of the cold, it’s a symptom.

            Also, I gained more empathy the older I got. So you probably need a bigger data set than your own experiences.

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                I think it’s less the network’s fault, and more on where someone chooses to spend their time on the network. If you’re on Facebook, it is in their interest to piss you off so you stay and fight. But plenty of other tools exist to connect folks online without being manipulative.

                It’s like fire, nuclear energy, or most any other tool. Use it right and everyone benefits, use it wrong and people get hurt.

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                  Agreed, but we’re specifically talking about looking at depraved content on the Internet.

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                Yes but we can’t tell if that’s caused by being online, it’s possible you’d have had the same problems anyway or possibly worse. For all we know the internet helped you deal with your issues and without it you’d have ended up a serial killer.

                Life is just very complex.

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        Hard to believe this isn’t simply due to improved detection, reporting and treatment options.

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            The key metric would be to review care detection and frequency at the same chronological age of participants, not simply today.

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                No, do not write leading statements like that, it’s rude. Just ask me to clarify.

                I’m saying there’s.no point measuring millennial healthcare analytics vs older generations because millennials aren’t older yet (obviously). So point in time analytics aren’t valuable ( edit to my conversation, obviously they are useful) My point was to understand the health analytics of a cohort relative to care options, you must consider the same age band, no matter the year.

                So like " describe mental health detection among 20-30 yo’s across decade’s of history"

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      At least those horrible things required human effort to make, so there was a limited quantity. An unlimited supply of content that a human had no part in making is completely new territory

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        It’s not obvious to me why the non-human origin matters here. Eventually AI will get so good that you can’t even tell the difference, or if you can, it’s because it’s so high quality.

        In my mind the meat of the issue is the amount of time we spend watching that content, and less so who made it.

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      I remember candy cigarettes. My favorite was the one that also double as gum. But guess I miss the racist candy? Or did I not get the racism?

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        These were called “Neekerinsuukko” which translates into “Nigger’s Kiss” and they were sold under that name well over into the 2000’s. It’s basically a chocolate egg with a flat waffle bottom and filled with this white creamy filling.

        I’m not sure if you can actually call that “racist” candy as I don’t think whoever made it had any bad intentions behind it. It’s just the name of it that aged a little badly. Nowdays these are just called “Kisses”

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        They were called chocolate babies in the 80s/90s and think they still go by that name but are no longer made by a major manufacturer

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        Wait, are you talking about some variation of candy cigarettes that I have never seen, but would be insanely jealous if they existed, or the flavored ones Camel used to have? Cause yeah chocolate mint Camels were awesome. Never liked the orange flavored ones, but that seemed to just be me in my friend group.