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      I know very few people that use Facebook, mostly for groups or market if they are. Compare that to a time where everyone was on Facebook, Facebook is dead.

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        This might surprise you to learn, but boomers are, in fact, people. They might not be the driving force behind the parts of the digital economy you care about, but they still count. They still make money for the services they use.

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          Obviously. But have you accessed fb in the last 5 years? There’s no content anymore, just ads.

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            I stopped using Facebook long ago, but that doesn’t really matter. I’m not really their target demographic anymore. I expect neither are you. I know people who use Facebook regularly for one reason or another. I don’t think that use looks much at all like it did in 2007, but they’re still using it.

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            I hazard to guess they are the most likely to engage with adds like popups, and banners, and be least likely to recognize native advertisement.

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        If it’s just the Boomers, it’s dead, why the fuck would companies want to market to people with lots of disposable income and nothing to do all day???

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    If by kill you mean turn into a cesspool of right wing extremist propaganda and incel shit only a boomer could spout and still fuck, then most platforms are already there or pretty close.

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    My dad really changed since joining TikTok. Now that’s all he talks about. Come look at this, come look at this,…
    “But I am busy.”
    “Oh, come on, it’s short.”
    “Look. See? People love Putin.”

    For fucks sake… Then he proceeds to loudly curse when he gets yet another account banned for posting some trash.
    When I try to talk to him, I am met with “Wait, I just have to finish this video.” then later he complains I don’t talk with him. ¿?

    I mean, it’s not just TikTok alone, he uses Facebook, TikTok and VKontakte, but I feel like that had the biggest influence.

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      start behind the scene subscribing to anti-putin posts and channels and see he changing opinion lol

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        Ask not what you could do for the algorithm. Ask what the algorithm can do for you.

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        100%. This actually works. Most boomers are not technologically late enough to track subscriptions and such.

        There was a YouTube video not a documentary (similar to The Brainwashing of My Dad) where their father went down the rabbithole, but they started subscribing them to better news sources, and eventually to left-leaning news sources, and he did a whole 180°.

        Fear is like a drug. It’s addictive, and rightwing media sources have cracked the formula on how to get people addicted to it, and it can happen to ANYONE. The uneducated to the well-educated. The only thing that makes you immune to it is critical thinking and empathy - which is why I feel that their next war is on education and masculinity. They are literally trying to perfect the addiction so you can never leave it.

        This is part of the reason why education is so insanely important.

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          I feel that their next war is on education and masculinity.

          The latest shots in the former march on by under the banner of ‘woke [literally any noun]’ is ruining our children these days, but that war has been raging since the 80s. ‘They’re’ winning by strangling the purse strings and efficiencies out of public education.

          The latter? Masculinity? That one has been a total occupation for hundreds of years already.

          Our sisters, mothers, and daughters have been warning us even before the side effects get to them. Of the emotional self-immolation a Patriarchic-controlled society demands of men by violence and shame until ‘Men don’t cry’ can be such poisonous words that many men end up kissing the barrel of a gun than using their lips to communicate their struggles to each other.

          It took trauma and the effects of such turning sharpening empathy into a survival mechanism rather than the too often opposite for me to even have been able to introspect myself out of just the more common and pervasive aspects of ‘toxic masculinity’.

          Make no mistakes; whatever you want to call ‘hearts and minds’, the twisted craven swine undermining the concept of basic humanity know very well to keep assaulting them. Education and empathy are the only things that can empower an actual successful removal of the Takers’ ability to do the same.

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          exactly, i got this idea from a brazilian tweet, where she did the same with her mom and it worked lol

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    Not before their brains start to rot by using those in the first place

    It’s scary to see how even the older generation gains reduced attention span, reduced ability to learn and need for instant gratification on this short dopamine machine.

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        It’s a loop that is hard to quit once you’ve entered it.

        I wish you success; maybe a good digital detox on the countryside with some simple books, field work and joys may help to reset your mind?

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          I spend a lot of time off grid but it is excruciating.

          Best treatment is having things to do for others, but that is rare these days

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            Maybe take some volunteering, then?

            Or would it be too hard/not useful to make yourself start doing something like that?

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                Would you like to tell more on the gatekeeping aspect? Imma be honest, I’m not a seasoned volunteer and would like to know more.

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                  One woman that works at a heritage farm told me a story about an open house they were having. She wanted to offer a lemon-sugar they made at the farm from an heirloom lemon tree. The woman organizing the event got very upset about this.

                  I joined a makerspace recently and in one of the steering committee meetings they talked about a problem they had with people who were not authorized using potentially dangerous or costly tools, and authorized people being unable to get easy access. I, being an embedded systems guy, offered to make a solution to this. They could have taken me up on the idea and just not used it, but instead one of the board members goes ballistic telling me I am not the one to do it.

                  I worked with a STEM teacher who contributed a lot of time after hours to help students enter academic competitions. This upsets other teachers, for reasons I don’t understand. They want him stopped. He was getting paid. He told them they could do it too and make extra money (as much as $50/hr) but they didn’t want to. They wanted him to stop.

                  A lot of it I don’t understand but it sounds a lot like the politics inside an HOA or a lot of other organizations.

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    I hate to break it to you my not-so-tech-savvy friend, but boomers on tiktok is not going to destroy tiktok like it did Facebook. The algo will basically only show their content to other boomers and young people will largely be unaware of it.

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      The same was true of Facebook my not-so-socially-savvy friend. Kids will stop using it once they realise grandma is on there because it is no longer cool.

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        Facebook was best when people used to call their friends cocksuckers and put up photos of people being drunk on the floor.

        Then it stopped because everyone’s family could see and it stopped being funny.

        Then the ads really killed itm

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        Again, Facebook and TikTok operate differently. One is a social network, the other is a short form video platform. A social network is inherently dependent on its users. Did YouTube die when it became widely adopted??

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          I don’t know if YouTube died per se, but it certainly became enshittified.

          Heaps of content creators sold out to advertising interests and degraded their own platform. Not that I blame them really, money always talks

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            And new creators take their place, if you’re only seeing shit on YouTube it’s because you’re only subscribed to shit.

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              Heaps of content creators sold out to advertising interests and degraded their own platform. Not that I blame them really, money always talks

              And new creators take their place, if you’re only seeing shit on YouTube it’s because you’re only subscribed to shit.

              To be fair, a lot of the good ones have moved over to, or always has been on, Nebula. (I’m not getting paid for pitching Nebula, just saying.)

              In essence, you’re both right, to some degree, but not completely.

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              Tell me you’re out of touch without telling me you’re out of touch. Most of the good creators only upload once in a blue moon nowadays. The search feature is completely useless. Dislikes have been removed, so you can’t easily filter garbage anymore. Shorts, a toxic form of content, is getting pushed down users’ throats. Their UI is getting worse all the time…

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                I have no trouble finding good content and if you don’t use the official app or use it in your browser you can just disable shorts. It’s also not like dislikes ever actually filtered content lmao. You never saw videos with crazy dislike ratios back in the day? Engagement votes are engagement, whether they’re positive or negative.

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                  Have you considered that your definition of “good content” might be shit?

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          Splitting hairs isn’t going to change anything. TikTok is absolutely 100% a social network. It uses more video and less written word but that’s about it. YouTube hasn’t died (and neither has Facebook for that matter) but it was very different in its earlier incarnations. It has become more social as time has gone on, in an effort to remain relevant. It has largely copied TikTok.

          TikTok in turn will become a boring old platform used by Old People (millennials, Gen Z) and kids will (already are) on to something new.

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            It’s not splitting hairs, it’s a fundamental difference. My mother and my niece are friends on Facebook but they don’t follow each other on TikTok. Hell most people who are close friends IRL don’t even follow each other on TikTok. There’s no brand cache for old people to ruin its just a tool.

            Sure kids will move on to something new eventually, but it’s waaaay more likely to be cause all the ‘eligible for commission’ videos make it feel like the Home Shopping Channel not cause old people (continue to) use it.

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      You do know kids can find out grandma is on tiktok other ways than just the site itself? Touch grass, remember there’s a world outside

      • But would anybody be bothered by it, if there’s no interaction there? Boomers destroyed Facebook for younger audiences, as all of a sudden parents would join in on conversations with your friends in the comments under a photo. You would link an article about a political issue and your reactionary uncle would proceed to call everyone who reads it a damn commy that needs to go to the army to learn some real life.

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        lol. I can’t tell if you just don’t know any young people or if it’s that you don’t know the difference between a social network and a short term video app. (Or you’re just mad cause tiktok = bad.)

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    once the boomers get there and start liking it, that’s when you know it’s about to reach peak and crash hard. my parents are talking about reddit. case in point.

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        The boomers I know haven’t found reddit yet so there is still time. It’s not that boomers are on a platform, it’s when boomers like my parents get there that shit starts to spiral out.

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          There are a lot of Boomers trickling into Reddit, and they are killing it even faster with mass reporting people.

          They go into subs that shit on Boomers for being themselves, and since Reddit hands out site bans for anything now it ends up destroying a lot of accounts.

          I really hope they never find Lemmy.

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    It’s harder for them to kill since the algorithm on TikTok is so strong it isolates the demographics.

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    Kids think anyone older than 25 are boomers. I would wager that the average age here on Lemmy is ~30. So by default, we are all boomers here.

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    I wish people hated the brigading proudboys this much. They would be more deserving.

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    Yea…get more boomers on shit platforms. My boomer uncle has got apple watch, apple phone and everything in his house is “smart” appliances. All i can say is He has lost his fucking mind!

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    Instagram? Yes because now it’s Facebook with a different skin

    TikTok I don’t think so: main problem with FB/IG is that you’ll get “friend requests” from all your family, and the algorithm is really strong on snitching you. Eventually you would need to create custom viewing permission lists (which nobody does) or stop posting stuff if you don’t want getting comments from your family. With TikTok you get videos from strangers and your videos gets shared to strangers, it’s unlikely that the algorithm pushes your stuff to your relatives