• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      I’m not sure if Denmark is one of those but for some states there’s unfortunately little choice. Not like we in Finland want to be next to Russia. But only men having to serve is an obvious equality issue.

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        9 months ago

        I’m not sure if Denmark is one of those but for some states there’s unfortunately little choice.

        There’s plenty of choice that doesn’t involve giving up your rights and become a slave to an authoritarian government. Such as voting for people who’s goal is to help people and not exploit them, or fight against and not support corrupted politicians.

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          How does me voting for “people who’s goal is to help people and not exploit them” going to make Russia any less of a shitty and threatening neighbor?

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            Rulers and governments don’t care about people, they care about profits and wealth. Pretty much all the west is in commercial partnership with countries arming russia like china. It’s more profitable for them to keep making business with dictatorships like Emirates and building weapons rather than working toward peace and against other corrupted governments

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              9 months ago

              I really don’t understand what you are saying or offering as an alternative here.

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                9 months ago

                Re read what i wrote I’ll also explain it to you again:

                Politicians and rulers, the ones in charge of pretty much every government are mentally ill individuals devoured by greed and lust for power. They do not care about others if not strictly out of personal interest. They are professional liars. As you can see right now in Gaza and as you can read in any history book these corrupted mafiosi seek war and use it as a tool to gain more wealth and power. They do not want peace, if not once they have put their filthy hands all over the place and to make sure nobody challenge their authority. The alternative to war is to strip these criminals of power and seek justice. Not making more nukes, not dumping trillions on weapons, not invading other countries, not mass surveillance, not beating protesters, not putting in jail Whistleblowers and not forcing everyone to fight for a country. Russia and Israel both have mandatory conscription, that’s one of the really reason they can do what they are doing right now. Russians are chilling in dubai right now, next to western politician and billionares yachts. Building weapons, increasing their power and forcing everyone to be their slave is their dream, they don’t care about helping people.

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                  9 months ago

                  I really am trying but I’m not sure what you’d want me, a Finn, to do to solve the issue of the threat of Russian aggression. I really don’t see many alternatives to us having a credible and strong defence.

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                    As Finn If you want a credible and strong defense purge your country from corrupted politicians who only care about wealth and profits. Vote for people that are against dictatorships and authoritarian states like russia, usa or china. Keep in mind that the whole system is rigged and the government and media have a strong grip on public opinion. Help your neighbors and organize with other people to improve the quality of life of everyone around you. Feeding your current government and giving up your rights will only make things worst for your own security and that of others. Stand your ground against propaganda, think with your brain and never listen blindly to orders.

        • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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          Ever heard of “solidarity”? You can’t just live safe while your countrymen risk their lives to defend you. If you don’t like it, you have plenty of time to emigrate in peacetime.

          If shit hits the fan, it’s too late. YOU made the choice to stay in a country where you were obligated to defend you neighbour if called upon. You can’t reap the benefits of collective protection and responsibility and then run off when it’s time to step up and do the dirty work.

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            Yeah ever heard of solidarity? Fucking up people daily like governments and politicians do it’s the opposite of that

            YOU made the choice to stay in a country

            So if you were a 17 years old russian you would buy a one way plane ticket and leave the country?

            Sound like you are putting the blame on people rather than the corrupted politician criminals responsible for all of this.

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              I don’t see Russia, or other authoritarian countries mentioned in the thread I’m responding to. This is about conscription in a democratic country where only adults are conscripted.

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          9 months ago

          Telle, what other choice do the Ukrainians have other than fighting? Or do you mean the Denmark government as authoritarian government?

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            Telle, what other choice do the Ukrainians have other than fighting?

            The choice should be up to the people to begin with, instead their authoritarian government has decided that no man between 18-60 can leave the country. Ukrainians are not the ukrainian government.

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        9 months ago

        But don’t you think only women being the only ones in charge of giving birth to the next generation is an obvious equality issue, too?

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          Well, we can’t change that with legislation but we can change who gets conscripted

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            9 months ago

            Sounds like something a crazy dictator would do.

            Everyone will now be able to have children for the glorious motherland