• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Why wouldn’t the dying stop? Russia is going to need as many workers as possible to rebuild and make up for military losses, on top of the preexisting population stagnation that was already dwindling their workforce. The worst case scenario imo is population transfer, and that’s not good, but I don’t see Russia being able or willing to waste a population boost from Ukraine.

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      9 months ago

      And yet there’ve been plenty of mass graves filled with civilians in territory that Ukraine has taken back from Russia.

      Russia’s been feeding their own people into meat-wave attacks that accomplish nothing but getting lots of their own inconvenient minorities and criminals killed. There’s a reason they’ve got such an atrocious demographic problem to “fix” with kidnapped Ukrainians in the first place. It’s understandable that Ukrainians would rather fight than fall under the control of such a system.

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        9 months ago

        There has to be an independent UN investigation report into the mass graves. Ukrainian investigators have a strong national interest in fabricating atrocity propaganda, just like the bullshit “investigations” getting churned out by Israel. We can’t just blindly trust either side of the war. The UN is looking into it but I’m not seeing any conclusions.

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          The sending of own working population into the meat grinder is the more interesting part of their comment. It serves as a counterexample for the claim that Russia’s need for workers would prevent them from killing more workers. If that were true, they could have stopped throwing people into the meat grinder at any point in time.

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        9 months ago

        Precisely. Even if the active war stops with Russia taking over Ukraine as a whole or in part, there would need to be repression against the non-conformant Ukrainian population. The fact that the Ukranians haven’t folded a long time ago and keep fighting means there’s a lot of people that would not be happy with Russian government and therefore they should be expected to resist if that happens anyway. Therefore the obvious need for repression. Therefore the continuation of dying and violence under hose conditions.

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          9 months ago

          Yip. Russia would not stop until total control of occupied regions and surroundings was obtained.