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    More people using sunscreen and lotion on the regular prevents skin damage. More people are eating healthy, working less physically demanding jobs. Also there’s a pretty huge bias with seeing pictures of older people and seeing them as older than they actually look. It has to do with seeing older styles of clothing and how people tend to keep their core styles longer. This makes people in the present see past photos as “older people” regardless of how young the faces look.

    Also the microplastics are preserving us from the inside out. We’re all deli-wrapped now.

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      People also smoke way less now. See the skin of someone at 30 who started smoking at 15, to see someone who looks like 40.

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        And everything around us smokes less too.

        In 1950 cars had basically no emission standards, factories didn’t either, and a LOT of people heated their homes with coal or wood.

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        Specifically, top panel man is smoking, bottom panel isn’t. That’s why they look like that. Mystery solved.

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        It’s very much the smoking. That V Sauce video about it being clothing wasn’t convincing. Comparing just faces negates that possible perception issue. And when constrained to only faces people in the past still look older.

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          Hair styles also make a difference. And it’s all of the things, individually, that add up.

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      Tanning beds also used to be a HUGE thing. The people that really frequently went to get a tan have much more leathery skin.

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    1. Smoking
    2. Smoking
    3. Smoking

    There are already a lot of good answers but I want to highlight this. Chronic tobacco smoke causes increased aging due to multiple mechanisms. Moreover, environmental tobacco exposure from second hand and third hand smoke prior to the 1990s was MASSIVE. So even if you didn’t smoke you got insane daily exposures to the same chemicals.

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        Nah, stop equating vaping to smoking, it’s a bad-faith argument compared to something we know it’s extremely toxic for a fact.

        Studies on vaping have been Inconsistent at best, popcorn lung was related to a flavoring that isn’t used at all now and was only limitedly used before.

        So like I get the easy joke, but it is misinformation at this point

        Edit: okay, guys stop assuming I’m talking about nicotine. I’m just talking about vaping (vaporizer) vs smoking (combustion). I’m also 31 years old and have never smoked or vaped nicotine myself, it’s not a personal habit of mine.

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            I mean, I was just talking about vaping itself. Also nicotine isn’t a known carcinogen, it’s just a highly addictive chemical.

            So yes, nicotine is still nicotine. But tabacco has a lot more in it than just that. So not sure what your point is?

            Edit: typo

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          Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and reduces blood flow to the skin, likely reducing the availability of nutrients to keep your skin healthy.

          Nicotine is nicotine.

          Sorry about your habit. It’s a hard one to break (been there), but don’t ignore known science to justify it in your head just because there isn’t a full in depth study.

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            Um, I have never consumed nicotine knowingly in my life, so there isn’t a personal bias. As I said before this, I never mentioned nicotine that was the other guy.

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              When you say vaping, the default assumption is you’re talking about vaping nicotine. Of course nicotine free vapes cannot be equated to smoking lmao. That’s on you for not specifying.

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        Slightly educated guess medical opinion here?

        As far as risk is concerned:

        Smoke>>>vape>nothing.

        Vaping will definitely have adverse effects we start cataloging more in 10-30 years. My guess? Likely some form of lung disease (maybe more of a restrictive pattern due to the microparticles in vapes—I could see if being like silicosis or pneumoconioses) and some forms of cancer.

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      No… I hate to tell you this but you are completely wrong. I smoked since i was 18 and even grew up with parents that smoked. I eventually stopped daily smoking when i was 25 years old. I only smoke every once in a while when i get together with my friends. About 2-3 packs a year now if we have to put a number on it.

      I am not even 40 yet and I TOTALLY HAVE HAIR, TRUE MAN I DO. I HAVE HAIR, AND LOTS OF IT. “I have the most hair anyone has ever seen” end sentence with index and thumbs together touch each hand in an ‘okay sign’ pointing at each other

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        I mean you basically don’t smoke then. Most of the effects of smoking are based on pack-years, which is the number of years you’ve smoked a pack per day. So two packs a day for 10 years? 20 pack years.

        You have barely any pack years, and you stopped so young that the adverse effects are definitely reversed (10 years of cessation to reverse risk of lung CA/COPD).

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          Yeah, I am glad I essentially stopped. (In case you couldn’t tell I was joking with my tone)

          Glad you are bringing up some of these points because most people don’t actually realize it ages you.

          All real talk aside it’s now time to start rewatching Cowboy Bebop. Hahaa

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        I smoke and don’t use sun screen and am 40 and look like exhibit b. Why can’t I grow a fancy beard like jet and look like I’ve been around the block using just my face…

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      I smoke, just turned 39, and people still regularly guess I’m in my early 20’s. Frankly, I’m surprised we don’t look older considering how much stress can cause visible aging. Where are the 13 year olds that look 102?

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    I don’t see any links to Vsauce’s video on this so I’m going to assume every response is wrong. TLDR: Styles become associated with eras and people in those eras become associated with our perception of that age bracket.

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      Also, because of increased healthy lifestyle awareness, we are actually ageing slower than we used to. The clue is in the cigarette the top cartoon smokes. Today we smoke less, we exercise more, we use more sunscreen and we eat healthier, all allowing our bodies to produce more firm collagen in less damaged skin cells.

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        This. Remember the cool kids from high school smoking, drinking, taking drugs? Yeah they look like 50 in their 30s now.

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          But what if you found out the opposite? I did it all but cigarettes in HS and college and I look 10 years younger than my middle age, it’s pretty sweet.

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            I’m also in the same boat as this, I think it really comes down to genetics plus health risk factors

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        I saw something speculating that Americans still age faster than other countries due to all the hormones they consume in animal products.

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          I saw something speculating jews shot space lasers to start forest fires. Luckily, I understand speculation isn’t fact.

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      Appropriate username.

      Also with names. Like picture a Mildred or even a Vicky, and you probably conjure up a person of a certain demo

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    We’re a lot sadder now, so we don’t smile much. The lack of smiling saved us from face wrinkles which keeps us looking young.

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    It is because when you look back to old pictures of people from when they were younger, the people in it have clothing styles and hairstyles that we today associate with older people.

    Look up a video on YouTube from VSauce called “Did people used to look older?”. They explain this phenomena well.

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      That argument isn’t convincing. Crop photos to compare people to negate the clothing perception. People in the past still look older after doing so.

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        Film of the era also made people look older. Old film is sensitive to UV light, which exaggerates/makes visible “flaws” in skin you wouldn’t see or notice otherwise.

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          I’ve watched that video and seen it reposted dozens of times. Michael talks about doctors finding people are aging slower in the intro. Then goes down a completely different path to claim most of this is due to clothing and style perception. Veering off into some weird pseudoscience junk even.

          What he could have done is check medical studies of twins that prove smokers age faster. Overlay smoking rates then and now. Come to the medically accepted reason for why this phenomenon exists.

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            If you’ve truly watched that video then it must be a long time ago and are remembering it wrong. Because it does say exactly what you’re saying early on in the video, explaining the studies that show how people are now younger from a medical point of view. You then clearly see that the age difference reported in the study from a medical point if view is not nearly wide enough to explain the magnitude of the difference of we perceive in real life.

            This is why video then shifts away from the purely medical perspective towards the more subjective reasons that could affect how we perceive people’s age. Of course it’s not gonna be backed by medical research to support this because the other reasons for this phenomena has absolutely nothing to do with medical science. Medical science doesn’t give a shit about the evolution of fashion in haircuts, makeup and clothing. But that doesn’t mean that it cannot have an effect on people’s perceptions of other’s age. It is obvious in the examples provided in the video that this has a far greater effect on the perception of someone’s age than the medical explanation alone.

            The meme itself is obviously about people’s perception of people’s age, which is affected by both medical and subjective factors like the evolution of fashion. Trying to pretend that only the medical factor counts is, essentially, ignoring the other half of the argument just to make yourself sound right.

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              Let’s play a game then. I know people right now today. Who dress and have facial hair nearly the same as Richard Dreyfuss in this image. They’re all late 30’s or early 40’s.

              Go ahead and let me know how old you think he looks. And yes he was a smoker.

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                Ah yes. Cherry picking an example of recurring fashion. That definitely proves that fashion and style never changes or evolves ever. /s

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                  These ladies are twins. One of them smoked. One did not.

                  Michael was so right though. It’s all just perception tricks.

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    Perspective. You were a kid in the 80s and they looked way old. Now you’re in your 40s and those little whippersnappers look like the babies they are.

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      Ignoring all of the improvements to health from the past 50 years, I see…

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    Lots of good answers here. Another minor one is Hollywood bias - older male actors got starring roles in romantic films. Random example, Cary Grant was 59 when he played the lead role in Charade opposite Audrey Hepburn who was 34.

    Add to that the low quality of TV broadcasts, different styles of filing and lighting in movies, and less subtle use of makeup and people in film and TV from stuff from the 90s back have an other-world quality to them if you look back at that compared to the high definition world were in now. Even older magazines and pictures can be available at lower quality to us on the Internet than at the time, as we don’t get to see the true originals but lower quality scans on the Internet compared to modern digital photographic.

    It’s amazing looking at old film from the 1800s that has been well kept or restored - not just people but the whole world actually looks real unlike what we’re used to.

    We’re so used to looking at history in low definition or the artificiality of old fashioned TV/movie techniques and biases.

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      Plus everything has filters on it now. Movies, online and magazine pictures, even the selfies you take at home have heavy anti-aging filters. After looking at all your selfies, go look at an actual mirror and you’ll be surprised at how rapidly you aged.

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    I had that same beard, hairline, and sunglasses when I turned 30 in 2011

    I still do now at 42 honestly, but my facial hair is just less pointy lol