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        9 months ago

        I’m listening to a 4 part Behind the Bastards on Steve Jobs right now, and Woz is presented like a pretty good dude, all things considered

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        9 months ago

        I still think it’s a bit funny that someone on Apple’s payroll is being critical of another company’s shady business practices when they are essentially doing just as much shady shit with user data.

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            I didn’t say you had to find it funny. Humour is subjective. But go off.

            I’ll explain since people insist. You’d think Apple’s lawyers would have advised against this since really the company also makes money from gathering and monetizing user data. But apparently not.

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        He’s still the guy making money off the slave labor Apple employs. Best thing he can do is shut up and play the role of the cool guy billionaire who isn’t out of touch, but defending China and tik tok doesn’t help his image

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          According to what I just looked up, they pay him a weekly salary of $50 so he’ll show up every so often for special events. Hardly raking in the big bucks.

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          He’s not a billionaire - I’m pretty sure he got X million, then decided that he had enough

          He weighs in frequently on technology issues, his takes aren’t always ideal, but he’s a consistent advocate in an area he’s qualified to have an opinion in. He also helped found the EFF

          From Wikipedia:

          Wozniak has discussed his personal disdain for money and accumulating large amounts of wealth. He told Fortune magazine in 2017, “I didn’t want to be near money, because it could corrupt your values … I really didn’t want to be in that super ‘more than you could ever need’ category.” He also said that he only invests in things “close to his heart”. When Apple first went public in 1980, Wozniak offered $10 million of his own stock to early Apple employees, something Jobs refused to do.

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            You guys fall for these fucks like Bill Gates as well, who have more money than you and your next 10 generations will ever need, and you defend them, why? He can talk about how much he hates being rich, but he’s still worth over 150 million cause he won’t give it up.

            He gives just enough to keep the wolves at bay. But he’s just as bad as the rest.

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              9 months ago

              Bill Gates as well, who have more money than you and your next 10 generations will ever need, and you defend them, why

              Is having money a reason to attack a person?

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                Yes. A person like Gates only has as much as he does, because he stole it from the people below him. Every wage theft, underpaid worker, every instance of “just stick around another hour for free, for the team!”, is money that went into Gates pocket. He has that much wealth because he fucked everyone on the way up. I think it’s our duty to do harm to billionaires and the ultra rich. They are parasites, viruses on the human race.

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                  And then you have Woz, who is an engineer, who shared his own stock with employees when Jobs declined to, who sold off his investments when he had enough money to live the rest of his life in the utmost luxury. Which stopped him considerably short of being a billionaire, people who continue to hoard amounts of wealth far beyond what a person could ever use (like Bill Gates)

                  Woz was an engineer who figured out how to make a computer run on televisions to make it more affordable for the average person. He worked for a living - comparing him to Bill Gates is unfair.

                  He actually did the thing, personally with his own hands. He isn’t rich because he exploited people, he’s rich despite others becoming far richer by exploiting his work

                  He did the thing that all billionaires should have done long before they became billionaires - he realized he had more than enough, and he stopped hoarding wealth.

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                  So being Bill Gates is a reason to attack someone, as long as the person you’re attacking is Bill Gates?