• venusaur@lemmy.world
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    At the risk of sounding like a Texan governor, what does infinite scrolling porn do to somebody’s brain, and how does that affect their sex life?

    EDIT: just do a little research on infinite scrolling and the effects of porn and then think about the effects of those combined. Y’all sound like porn addicts. It’s okay to watch porn. It’s not okay to deny that there are serious detrimental side effects to what and the way we consume it. Take care of yourself if having meaningful sexual experiences with a real human matters to you.

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        I think this is detrimental quicker than other pleasures, a porn magazine for example, or even a porn streaming site. It hits faster, is more stimulating and is less work to keep it going.

        Compounding the negative effects of infinite scrolling and porn seems very detrimental to one’s sexual psychology and in turn their life.

        EDT: damn y’all really love porn. clearly no women on Lemmy yet.

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            8 months ago

            It needed to be said. It’s for your health. Like telling stoners that smoking weed every day is bad for you even tho it’s not hard drugs.

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          You aren’t wrong, but wrong place to get any balanced discussion. You’re arguing against boobs when the blood isn’t in the brain - not going to happen.

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          8 months ago

          Porn streaming sites are “infinite” too…

          OP said this is just a frontend for pornhub’s gif section

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            8 months ago

            The format is totally diff. This is YouTube vs instagram or TikTok. You know the difference.

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              8 months ago

              OP hasn’t invented anything here. There are lots of infinite scrolling porn sites out there.

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                8 months ago

                For sure. The question still stands. Does anybody think about the ways this is detrimental to people?

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          8 months ago

          Your point is valid and I don’t think deserving of so many downvotes. I think most people can handle it responsibly, but always good to keep in mind potential risks.

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            Yeah it’s fine in moderation but that’s like somebody denying that alcohol can be bad for you. Bunch of porn addicts in denial. By the time we recognize how detrimental it can be on our lives it’ll be too late. It already is. Too many people brainwashed cuz we don’t take it seriously.

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                Watching porn isn’t sex and I’m not saying porn in and of itself is as much of a problem as infinite scrolling is. You’re inferring a lot. Just do some research on infinite scrolling and think about it. If u wanna watch infinite porn, more power to you, but doesn’t mean it doesn’t have negative side effects.

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                  I’m not trying to infer, I’m asking you questions to further understand your position here. What’s your issue with porn specifically? Why is porn bad for people? You’re the one asserting this (“porn is as much a problem” implies it’s still a problem at some level) on an open forum, please explain. What’s so bad about being naked in a movie or picture and someone else watching that? We have bodies. We are adults. So what?

                  We’ve had infinite porn scrolling for a while now with image searches. The issue with addiction and scrolling is usually related to predatory algorithms (which op doesn’t appear to have used) and also neurochemical differences in individuals. However, addiction in terms of neurochemical balances is a highly controversial topic and in general, I side with the idea that each person should own their own body and be able to do what they like as long as it doesn’t harm others. So if someone is comfortable with watching porn all day every day and that feels fine for them, then I think that is fine as well.

                  There’s no need to monitor another person’s addiction and the only reason you’d want to, is if you were codependent or parentified as a child (codependency is an addiction too). I get providing your opinion and sources, but you have yet to provide a single source or even specifically say what the issue is, besides some vague concern over infinite scrolling in general. You come across as being reactive and not actually founded in any kind of moral or scientific consistency. That’s fine if that’s the case, but then maybe you should acknowledge that you could be wrong here unless you’re backing it up with sources and sound reasoning.

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                    Wow. Relax, I’m not on a crusade against porn. Many of you are addicted to porn and are in denial, or don’t know it. I’m not saying all types of porn in all amounts and methods of consumption are bad. The types of porn that are popular and seen in the gifs on that site and the method in which it is being consumed can have detrimental effects on our brains.

                    If you care all you have to do is a quick google search. Here are the Wikipedias on porn and infinite scrolling compiling multiple sources.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomscrolling

                    I doubt me providing you a link or two is gonna change your beliefs. I’m presenting the issue and it’s up to you to decide.

                    Just think about the types of porn that is popular, how that is vastly different from what a healthy sexual relationship is like, and how the compounded effects of “doomscrolling” could affect your relationship with yourself, your sexual partners and society in general.

                    More importantly, don’t keep the discussion limited amongst other men. Go ask women about their sexual experiences. You’ll find that a lot of guys are engaging in sex in the same way they engage with porn and humans really can’t compete.

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                    8 months ago

                    but you have yet to provide a single source or even specifically say what the issue is, besides some vague concern over infinite scrolling in general.

                    Can’t help feeling that you’re overthinking the conversation.

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            Women wouldn’t be so vehemently against what I’m saying. And keep the conversation civil.

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        I don’t think it is though. Lots of articles on the effects of infinite scrolling on our brains. It triggers dopamine and becomes addictive. TikTok is different than going to YouTube for example. Then add the effects of porn on our brain to that and you got a very potent digital cocktail.

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          People watch yt and porn sites for very different reasons. People watch infinite scrolling porn and tiktok for very different reasons. I disagree with your main premise that you can get sucked into any infinite scroll site the exact same way, no matter the content.

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            You can’t disagree with the effects of infinite scrolling vs a streaming website tho.

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              Yeah but that misses the point that content matters. When people watch porn they watch until they get off, then shut off the content (unless they’re already addicts, which is a separate discussion). With infinite meme (or whatever) sites, there’s no “end point” like there is with porn, so people’s brains are prodded to keep scrolling.

              While there are documented studies done on infinite vid sites (like tiktok), I don’t think there are any on infinite porn sites. I don’t think with separate content a claim can be made that since a study applies in case A, it also applies to case B

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                I think that’s a fair argument. Infinite scrolling still trains our brain based on the task we are giving it. If it’s entertainment then we are training ourselves to go forever. If it’s orgasm, then we are training our brain to constantly be stimulated by infinitely changing stimuli, which no human can compete with sexually.

                And no, there isn’t enough data yet, but there also isn’t enough data around smoking weed and long term effects, especially around pregnancy, but people understand it’s probably not safe. Use at your own risk. I’m just saying that it very likely has some detrimental effect on our brains, but can’t prove how much.

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        8 months ago

        Sure. People can just not do crack. A more like comparison, people could just not scroll through Lemmy or any other infinite scrolling app, but they do because nobody thinks it has any real ramifications.

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          I think there’s something to be said for coercive and manipulative algorithms, definitely. I don’t know that simply efficiently looking at the porn you want to look at until you’re done edging or you cum or whatever is bad. The less ads, the better as well, because ads are very manipulative and coercive and the point is to reduce that. Having an orgasm is a normal human experience, as is sexual exploration in general. Idk that all porn is perfect or anything, but I do think the antiporn stuff is weirdly sex phobic for no reason.

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            8 months ago

            Just do a little research on infinite scrolling and the psychological effects. It’s addictive and trains your brain.

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      8 months ago

      Getting a lot of “I can quit any time I want” vibes from this comment thread.