Iirc, both Jewish and Islamic law are explicit that if you can break kosher/eating halal if you have no other options for food. Keeping yourself alive is more important.
Is there not something similar in catholic theology?
I’m kinda tempted to go to a catholic priest, tell them my full life story and see if they could even come up with penance for me. Like as a gay trans man, I imagine I’d be told to detransition but I’m far enough along that I can’t really go back - I’m not even sure what they’d consider a sin at this point.
The current pope is pretty lenient towards LGBTQ+ compared to most other religions and especially compared to old school Catholic pope’s. Jesus was a man of peace and the current pope seems to think that was his ultimate message for mankind.
Not a Catholic but fairly knowledgeable about the religion. I believe your transition would be accepted as long as you don’t live in sin by performing any acts of sodomy. The Catholics study theology relentlessly, and I’m sure they already had a way of dealing with the fair number of intersex babies born without dooming them to a life spent in unintentional sin.
The church has never expressed an issue with homosexuality, only homosexual acts. And even those acts aren’t a sin due to the homosexual intent, they’re a sin because of the sodomy.
Remember though, sodomy is a blanket term here for “sex acts not capable of producing children” so for you that would be… All of them I suppose.
I suspect that the suggested answer would be the one they give to all gay men, for you to live as a man, but be celibate. Devote your life to God, maybe even become a monk back in the old days. A lot of monks were “confirmed bachelors”
You can save yourself from all of them, there is no irredeemable sin in any Christ based faith. Only ones that need more explaining, hedging and tithing than others.
What what? Are you saying I can denounce “the holy spirit” and no catholic ever gets to bother me again? Not even theoretically? That is great!
Also, woud the church become sinners themselves if they know about one of their members denouncing and they proceed to collect church tax? Nice loophole if ;)
Fun fact: you stay a Catholic when you announce that you are leaving the church, and even when the pope excommunicates you. According to the church, there’s no way to leave once you’ve been baptized.
That sounds like the kind of abusive hostage situation that we westerners tend to associate with Islam, with no formal way to get out. Interesting, TIL…
If you want to get really technical, in Jewish theory there’s an argument in the Talmud or Mishrad that says that as long as the dish is less than 1/16 or 1/32 (something like that,) of the non halal meat, then it can be considered kosher as well
I’m not Jewish, I just studied religions for a while. Someone who is Jewish can correct me on the proper percentage
I am Jewish, but the only way I will correct you is by saying it’s a bunch of centuries-old religious nonsense that has nothing to do with actual nutritional science.
Iirc, both Jewish and Islamic law are explicit that if you can break kosher/eating halal if you have no other options for food. Keeping yourself alive is more important.
Is there not something similar in catholic theology?
In Catholic doctrine you can break literally all rules except denouncing the holy spirit, if you confess and repent afterwards.
I’m kinda tempted to go to a catholic priest, tell them my full life story and see if they could even come up with penance for me. Like as a gay trans man, I imagine I’d be told to detransition but I’m far enough along that I can’t really go back - I’m not even sure what they’d consider a sin at this point.
The current pope is pretty lenient towards LGBTQ+ compared to most other religions and especially compared to old school Catholic pope’s. Jesus was a man of peace and the current pope seems to think that was his ultimate message for mankind.
Careful, priest might get his scissors out
Not a Catholic but fairly knowledgeable about the religion. I believe your transition would be accepted as long as you don’t live in sin by performing any acts of sodomy. The Catholics study theology relentlessly, and I’m sure they already had a way of dealing with the fair number of intersex babies born without dooming them to a life spent in unintentional sin.
The church has never expressed an issue with homosexuality, only homosexual acts. And even those acts aren’t a sin due to the homosexual intent, they’re a sin because of the sodomy.
Remember though, sodomy is a blanket term here for “sex acts not capable of producing children” so for you that would be… All of them I suppose.
I suspect that the suggested answer would be the one they give to all gay men, for you to live as a man, but be celibate. Devote your life to God, maybe even become a monk back in the old days. A lot of monks were “confirmed bachelors”
I broke all 10 commandments and I ate meat during lent. My bad. How many hail Marys do I owe you?
All of them.
There are temporal consequences of sin, even after guilt is removed.
You can save yourself from all of them, there is no irredeemable sin in any Christ based faith. Only ones that need more explaining, hedging and tithing than others.
What what? Are you saying I can denounce “the holy spirit” and no catholic ever gets to bother me again? Not even theoretically? That is great! Also, woud the church become sinners themselves if they know about one of their members denouncing and they proceed to collect church tax? Nice loophole if ;)
Fun fact: you stay a Catholic when you announce that you are leaving the church, and even when the pope excommunicates you. According to the church, there’s no way to leave once you’ve been baptized.
That sounds like the kind of abusive hostage situation that we westerners tend to associate with Islam, with no formal way to get out. Interesting, TIL…
You’re always a sinner anyway in catholics.
Putting on my miter, crossing my arms stubbornly, and whispering “This is the way” as I shrivel up into an emaciated string bean.
If you want to get really technical, in Jewish theory there’s an argument in the Talmud or Mishrad that says that as long as the dish is less than 1/16 or 1/32 (something like that,) of the non halal meat, then it can be considered kosher as well
I’m not Jewish, I just studied religions for a while. Someone who is Jewish can correct me on the proper percentage
I am Jewish, but the only way I will correct you is by saying it’s a bunch of centuries-old religious nonsense that has nothing to do with actual nutritional science.