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AI generated content is great and all but it drowns out everything else on there.
Anyone can type a prompt and generate a great looking image with a couple of attempts these days it seems.
The people spending days, weeks, months and more on a piece can’t keep up.
It’s less of an issue with competing via comparisons of two, more an issue with never being seen in the first place as real works become grains of sand on beaches of generated content.
As the photographic industry was the refuge of every would-be painter, every painter too ill-endowed or too lazy to complete his studies, this universal infatuation bore not only the mark of a blindness, an imbecility, but had also the air of a vengeance. I do not believe, or at least I do not wish to believe, in the absolute success of such a brutish conspiracy, in which, as in all others, one finds both fools and knaves; but I am convinced that the ill-applied developments of photography, like all other purely material developments of progress, have contributed much to the impoverishment of the French artistic genius, which is already so scarce. It is nonetheless obvious that this industry, by invading the territories of art, has become art’s most mortal enemy, and that the confusion of their several functions prevents any of them from being properly fulfilled.
― Charles Baudelaire, On Photography, from The Salon of 1859
TBF he was kind of right, if you look at the industry of wall art these days then 98% of whats on people’s walls is printed imagery and copies. Imagine if we paid a real artist directly for every one of those framed and hung works instead of giving profit to some soulless corporation to make monotony incarnate.
there’s some stuff image generating AI just can’t do yet. it just can’t understand some things. a big problem seems to be referring to the picture itself, like position or its border. another problem is combining things that usually don’t belong together, like a skin of sky. those are things a human artist/designer does with ease.
there’s some stuff image generating AI just can’t do yet
There’s a lot.
Some of it doesn’t matter for certain things. And some of it you can work around. But try creating something like a graphic novel with Stable Diffusion, and you’re going to quickly run into difficulties. You probably want to display a consistent character from different angles – that’s pretty important. That’s not something that a fundamentally 2D-based generative AI can do well.
On the other hand, there’s also stuff that Stable Diffusion can do better than a human – it can very quickly and effectively emulate a lot of styles, if given a sufficient corpus to look at. I spent a while reading research papers on simulating watercolors, years back. Specialized software could do a kind of so-so job. Stable Diffusion wasn’t even built for that, and with a general-purpose model, also not specialized for that, it already can turn out stuff that looks rather more-impressive than those dedicated software packages.
I think Corridor Digital made an AI animated film by hiring an illustrator (after an earlier attempt with a general dataset) and “draw” still frames from video of the lead actors, with Stable Diffusion generating the inbetweens.
think of an episode of any animated series with countless handmade backgrounds, good luck generating those with any sort of consistency or accuracy and you will be calling for an artist who can actually take instructions and iterate
I’m a bit surprised about how quickly I got tired of seeing AI content (mostly porn and non-nudes) Somehow it all just looks the same. You’d think that being AI generated would give you infinite variety but apparently not.
AI generated content is great and all but it drowns out everything else on there. Anyone can type a prompt and generate a great looking image with a couple of attempts these days it seems.
The people spending days, weeks, months and more on a piece can’t keep up.
It’s almost like low quality mechanisation is something that should be resisted. I wonder where I’ve heard that before…
You heard it from traditional artists when the camera was invented
And photographers when Photoshop was invented
And birthed impressionism as a result. These are tools, artists will adapt.
And if they can’t compete with the soulless generic crap that ai spits out, they probably shouldn’t be artists
Everyone should be an artist. It doesn’t have to be professionally but everyone should be creating something.
If they’re not doing it for a living they don’t have to compete with anyone, least of all AI
It’s less of an issue with competing via comparisons of two, more an issue with never being seen in the first place as real works become grains of sand on beaches of generated content.
Every gallery in the world did not rush out to exhibit every submitted photograph with no curation or quality filter when photography was invented
A physical gallery has limited wall space. A website does not. Ai art should just be tagged as such, so it can be filtered
If youre implying that every gallery in the world is rushing to exhibit every submitted ai picture with no curation or quality filter, name 5.
― Charles Baudelaire, On Photography, from The Salon of 1859
TBF he was kind of right, if you look at the industry of wall art these days then 98% of whats on people’s walls is printed imagery and copies. Imagine if we paid a real artist directly for every one of those framed and hung works instead of giving profit to some soulless corporation to make monotony incarnate.
yOuRe GaTeKePiNg!!!
I don’t know for what product that’d be desirable. What did you have in mind?
there’s some stuff image generating AI just can’t do yet. it just can’t understand some things. a big problem seems to be referring to the picture itself, like position or its border. another problem is combining things that usually don’t belong together, like a skin of sky. those are things a human artist/designer does with ease.
There’s a lot.
Some of it doesn’t matter for certain things. And some of it you can work around. But try creating something like a graphic novel with Stable Diffusion, and you’re going to quickly run into difficulties. You probably want to display a consistent character from different angles – that’s pretty important. That’s not something that a fundamentally 2D-based generative AI can do well.
On the other hand, there’s also stuff that Stable Diffusion can do better than a human – it can very quickly and effectively emulate a lot of styles, if given a sufficient corpus to look at. I spent a while reading research papers on simulating watercolors, years back. Specialized software could do a kind of so-so job. Stable Diffusion wasn’t even built for that, and with a general-purpose model, also not specialized for that, it already can turn out stuff that looks rather more-impressive than those dedicated software packages.
I think Corridor Digital made an AI animated film by hiring an illustrator (after an earlier attempt with a general dataset) and “draw” still frames from video of the lead actors, with Stable Diffusion generating the inbetweens.
It‘s even hard to impossible to generate the image of a person doing a handstand. All models assume a rightside-up person.
This hasn’t been true for months at least. You really have to check week to week when dealing with things in this field.
think of an episode of any animated series with countless handmade backgrounds, good luck generating those with any sort of consistency or accuracy and you will be calling for an artist who can actually take instructions and iterate
We’ll soon be hearing that only Luddites care about continuity errors
I’m a bit surprised about how quickly I got tired of seeing AI content (mostly porn and non-nudes) Somehow it all just looks the same. You’d think that being AI generated would give you infinite variety but apparently not.
The same way people using shovels can’t keep up with an excavator.
Technology changes the world. This is nothing new.
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