I had In The House - In A Heartbeat playing in my head while making this meme

sorry for the pixelation in the corner, I used a shitty website which put a watermark there

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    why are you fighting me

    Because you’re not just reporting on the awful status quo. You’re mis-characterizing it as natural and inevitable rather than a serious of choices, often wrong, that we keep letting people with questionable motives make on everyone’s behalf to the benefit of those who already have too much while others suffer from not having enough.

    Put another way, you’re framing blind obedience to rules that haven’t served the vast majority of people well as not just a good idea but the ONLY possibility.

    You may not set policy, but whether you’re aware of it or not, you’re defending policy that needs attacking.

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      6 months ago

      Sigh, the classic extremists trap, in order to be a good guy, you need to keep geeting more and more extreme.

      You are basically saying that unless I am actively working toward the same goal you are, then I am a terrible person.

      You mention that “when the government’s aims are in conflict with the well-being of the people, the government has failed”, that is litterarly my point!

      The government has a duty of spending taxes to provide services for it’s people (citizens and people with approved residency and work permits), a migrant requesting residency and work permits is not yet part of the governments people.

      You say that capitalism and communism isn’t the only economic systems, sure but no economic system in the world would be able to generate infinite resources.

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        6 months ago

        Sigh, the classic extremists trap, in order to be a good guy, you need to keep geeting more and more extreme.

        Sigh, the classic Centrist trap. In order to defend your reflexive defense of the status quo, you have to pretend that anything else is “extreme” 🙄

        You are basically saying that unless I am actively working toward the same goal you are, then I am a terrible person.

        I have said nothing of the sort. I’ve merely pointed out that you defend as inevitable that which is unnecessarily enforced. The only one making snap character judgments here is you.

        The government has a duty of spending taxes to provide services for it’s people (citizens and people with approved residency and work permits)

        True.

        a migrant requesting residency and work permits is not yet part of the governments people

        Also true, but people with disabilities generally tend to know someone in the country before migrating. People who are deprived by their loved ones being denied entry.

        Unless we’re talking refugees, in which case it’s any country’s legal and moral duty to take them in and protect them from whatever they’re fleeing from.

        You say that capitalism and communism isn’t the only economic systems, sure but no economic system in the world would be able to generate infinite resources.

        Again with the strawmen. You don’t need infinite resources to care for everyone who’s in need. In the case of all but the poorest countries (which are mostly that poor because of being looted by richer countries) you just need to better distribute the ones you already have, rather than throw all the wealth and ownership at the already obscenely rich wealth hoarders.

        To want a better deal for the 90% of people who aren’t rich and use resources on those that need them most rather than perpetuating the upwards transfer of wealth inherent to capitalism isn’t communism. It’s just wanting a better world for the vast majority of humanity.

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      6 months ago

      So which non-capitalist country/countries allow disabled and economically inactive people to migrate there for free healthcare?

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        6 months ago

        Can’t name one off the top of my head, but that’s besides the point.

        My point isn’t about what IS, it’s about what COULD and SHOULD be.