It’s convenient to ask for the weather and set a timer by a voice command.
Tech companies are selling these devices at a loss because they think people are going to buy things by a voice command. But I think mostly people just use them for setting timers and other banal purposes.
They don’t actually spy on people, that would be extremely easy for anyone monitoring traffic from the device to know if it was happening. The reports about tech companies advertising things people talked about in front of a inactive home assistant device have an even more creepy explanation. These things happen because the tech companies know what you’re likely considering buying because they know your purchasing history of nearly everything you’ve ever bought in the past.
Yeah shit like that is why I don’t use customer loyalty cards. But I guess the credit card companies are probably selling my data anyway so maybe it doesn’t make a difference.
Omg lol I didn’t even know I could purchase stuff with the google home. I wouldn’t anyway because that’s silly to me but that’s funny if you’re right about it being their intent (I don’t doubt that you are). I got my google home for free or very cheap with my music streaming account.
I don’t know about google home, but with Alexa they had advertisements with Alec Baldwin (before the incident) buying socks using Alexa. It probably made a lot of sense to someone like Jeff Bezos because money is nothing to him. So just saying “Alexa order me some socks” without even looking at a price makes a lot of sense to a billionaire.
But yeah… for everyone else it’s just a “remind me in half an hour to check on the roast” kind of device. I think it’s kinda funny they invested a lot of money into developing devices that are only slightly more convenient than setting an egg timer.
Google home is pretty good for music. You can cast YouTube or Spotify or any web page to any devices in your house. I have 5 scattered throughout my house and play music when I clean. Also controlling smart lights is pretty awesome.
Not if you disable all voice commands and use something like GrapheneOS (maybe even with stock android and ios when disabling all voice commands but I wouldn’t count on it)
The fuck is going on with this comment section glorifying Alexa/google home like that. A smartphone being the same as a corporate listening device? Wtf. And you are the one getting downvoted by someone who has their account on a programming instance. Bizarre.
A smartphone being the same as a corporate listening device?
I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you insinuating the smartphone is the lower privacy risk?!
I mean, hypothetically if one is being used nefariously why not the other, it would be a hell of a lot harder to know a smartphone was spying on you than a smart speaker. Even people running phones with supposedly private OSes like graphene still typically have several black boxes running blobs of proprietary code (the modem being the big elephant in the room).
A smartphone is a much bigger risk to your privacy than a smart home speaker. It can do anything the speaker can do, but with magnitudes more processing power and a load of extra sensors. Plus you carry it with you everywhere and it’s constantly broadcasting your whereabouts to every cell tower nearby that’ll listen.
FWIW, people have been trying to find evidence of these speakers spying on us for like a decade now, if they actually were, it would have been found and we’d all know.
WHY do (able) people let these things into their houses ??? i will never understand !!!
It’s convenient to ask for the weather and set a timer by a voice command.
Tech companies are selling these devices at a loss because they think people are going to buy things by a voice command. But I think mostly people just use them for setting timers and other banal purposes.
They don’t actually spy on people, that would be extremely easy for anyone monitoring traffic from the device to know if it was happening. The reports about tech companies advertising things people talked about in front of a inactive home assistant device have an even more creepy explanation. These things happen because the tech companies know what you’re likely considering buying because they know your purchasing history of nearly everything you’ve ever bought in the past.
Like that time 10 years ago that Target sent baby coupons to a man’s teenage daughter before the man knew she was pregnant: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
Yeah shit like that is why I don’t use customer loyalty cards. But I guess the credit card companies are probably selling my data anyway so maybe it doesn’t make a difference.
I mean I consider the data collection spying.
Omg lol I didn’t even know I could purchase stuff with the google home. I wouldn’t anyway because that’s silly to me but that’s funny if you’re right about it being their intent (I don’t doubt that you are). I got my google home for free or very cheap with my music streaming account.
I don’t know about google home, but with Alexa they had advertisements with Alec Baldwin (before the incident) buying socks using Alexa. It probably made a lot of sense to someone like Jeff Bezos because money is nothing to him. So just saying “Alexa order me some socks” without even looking at a price makes a lot of sense to a billionaire.
But yeah… for everyone else it’s just a “remind me in half an hour to check on the roast” kind of device. I think it’s kinda funny they invested a lot of money into developing devices that are only slightly more convenient than setting an egg timer.
Google home is pretty good for music. You can cast YouTube or Spotify or any web page to any devices in your house. I have 5 scattered throughout my house and play music when I clean. Also controlling smart lights is pretty awesome.
Yeah I used have an Alexa and it controlled the lights… until it didn’t. Enshittification, I guess.
Remotely controlling your thermostat. Swoon…
To be fair, if you own a smartphone, you already carry one of these devices with you everywhere you go.
Not if you disable all voice commands and use something like GrapheneOS (maybe even with stock android and ios when disabling all voice commands but I wouldn’t count on it)
Graphene is available on a very limited set of devices so that’s a very, very small minority.
True, but the comment I’ve replied to talked about smartphones in general. My point was that it is possible to avoid being stalked.
Yeah, that’s why I said that “smartphones in general” don’t have a graphene os build available.
Lol, that is an illusion if you don’t think you’re being tracked
thats not grapheneos’ fault tho. blame the oems
are you saying i secretly have amazon alexa installed on my grapheneos phone ? oh my!
OK Google/Siri is built into every smartphone, genius. They have the same spying features as Alexa.
not my phone ;)
Because it actually can help.
I have light switches that don’t turn on main lights when I walk into the house. Smart devices allow me to be physically safer in my house.
I can have my ac system not run full blast when I’m not home, I can save money.
I can see who is at my door and communicate with them without physically opening the door, therefore, I don’t have to draw my gun if stuff is sketchy.
Think about disabled people, they can easily control their space with just about any device.
I am NOT a defender of big tech, but there are use cases where it can improve your life immensely.
The fuck is going on with this comment section glorifying Alexa/google home like that. A smartphone being the same as a corporate listening device? Wtf. And you are the one getting downvoted by someone who has their account on a programming instance. Bizarre.
I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you insinuating the smartphone is the lower privacy risk?!
I mean, hypothetically if one is being used nefariously why not the other, it would be a hell of a lot harder to know a smartphone was spying on you than a smart speaker. Even people running phones with supposedly private OSes like graphene still typically have several black boxes running blobs of proprietary code (the modem being the big elephant in the room).
A smartphone is a much bigger risk to your privacy than a smart home speaker. It can do anything the speaker can do, but with magnitudes more processing power and a load of extra sensors. Plus you carry it with you everywhere and it’s constantly broadcasting your whereabouts to every cell tower nearby that’ll listen.
FWIW, people have been trying to find evidence of these speakers spying on us for like a decade now, if they actually were, it would have been found and we’d all know.
lack of tech literacy or security conciousness and a dependance on unnecessary devices which build habits such as forgetting to turn off the ac