cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16391311

Andrej Karpathy endorses Apple Intelligence

Actually, really liked the Apple Intelligence announcement. It must be a very exciting time at Apple as they layer AI on top of the entire OS. A few of the major themes.

Step 1 Multimodal I/O. Enable text/audio/image/video capability, both read and write. These are the native human APIs, so to speak.

Step 2 Agentic. Allow all parts of the OS and apps to inter-operate via “function calling”; kernel process LLM that can schedule and coordinate work across them given user queries.

Step 3 Frictionless. Fully integrate these features in a highly frictionless, fast, “always on”, and contextual way. No going around copy pasting information, prompt engineering, or etc. Adapt the UI accordingly.

Step 4 Initiative. Don’t perform a task given a prompt, anticipate the prompt, suggest, initiate.

Step 5 Delegation hierarchy. Move as much intelligence as you can on device (Apple Silicon very helpful and well-suited), but allow optional dispatch of work to cloud.

Step 6 Modularity. Allow the OS to access and support an entire and growing ecosystem of LLMs (e.g. ChatGPT announcement).

Step 7 Privacy. <3

We’re quickly heading into a world where you can open up your phone and just say stuff. It talks back and it knows you. And it just works. Super exciting and as a user, quite looking forward to it.

https://x.com/karpathy/status/1800242310116262150?s=46

  • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s fascinating to see someone who is positioned as “one of the top 3-10 AI scientists in the world” endorsing a platform based on some marketing videos, without even trying it, let alone reviewing any of the critical details.

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      To be fair, I think he is mostly endorsing the concept of the implementation, lined out in his seven points, not the actual implementation since it isn’t available yet.

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        The tone and the writing style seem to imply otherwise, it’s almost like PR copytext. For example, Point 7 arguably contradicts Point 5 and 6. It’s like an infomercial for tech fans.

        Although I see what you mean with respect to the concept of implementation and the actual implementation.

        Personally, I think this is more of a financial play, he’s got to be thinking about how to maximize benefits (financial, status) in the next few years before the hype dies down. This is a very cynical mode of thinking; but I think my cynicism is justified.

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      Did you even watch wwdc. Apple showed how its servers and data from device to the cloud were going to work. The entire thing is open to third party scrutiny and moreover, their servers won’t run on anything that isn’t. They are as transparent as basically Mullvad with ensuring you don’t come across a scenario like “trust me it’s secure bro.” Craig even joked that most businesses that rolled out AI privacy are doing just that.

      Or would you rather just be an edgelord.

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        comparing with mullvad is ridiculous and just shows how much you drank the apple juice without questioning

        • mullvad doesn’t hold your contact info, like apple right?
        • mullvad is open source so you can independently verified which data is being sent, just like apple right?
        • mullvad claims to not log anything, like apple and their csam thing on icloud right?

        “leave alone the multi billion dollar corporation” energy

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          Wow another idiot who did zero research into Apple’s implementation and just uses the “they are a billion dollar company” slam.

          Not saying it’s better than Mullvad but it’s not nearly as poor as other VPNs. Also no, Apple doesn’t send your contact info or other details into the cloud, all that shit is anonymized.

          I mean at least do SOME research into the service you’re slamming and saying is just as insecure as CoPilot+ ffs.

          Yes. Lemmy needs hate Apple. We get it.

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            Apple doesn’t send your contact info or other details into the cloud, all that shit is anonymized.

            Are you sure about that ? It is written in their Legal Privacy Policy in the chapter “Personal Data Apple Collects from You”:

            Contact Information. Data such as name, email address, physical address, phone number, or other contact information

            Doesn’t seems so anonymized to me…

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              Go watch their WWDC 2024 keynote on how their cloud computing is set up to handle privacy and the sharing of information from device to cloud. And how they setup their proprietary servers.

              As for generally collecting details (like contact info, location info, payment details, and even government issues IDs) how do you propose they offer services like Apple Card, Apple Pay, Digital Driver’s Licenses, etc. without knowing that info???

              I swear half of Lemmy doomsday preppers! We are talking about secure transmission from device to cloud while respecting your privacy; not using Apple services as a ghost. They are not aiming to replace Mullvad; they want to build AI on top of a secure platform that doesn’t shine a flood light on your private life.

              Scour their UELA all you want, really has nothing to do with the conversation; we all know they have info on you as we all know smoking causes cancer.

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        No source-code, no trust. How good is my data on their super secure servers if they have the encryption keys.

        How good is a 3rd party scrutiny if those are mandated and paid by Apple to make the audits?

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    We’re quickly heading into a world where you can open up your phone and just say stuff. It talks back and it knows you. And it just works. Super exciting and as a user, quite looking forward to it.

    I’m pretty sure that I’m not interested in that at all.

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        Well - On the one hand he used to work for OpenAI and Tesla.

        On the other hand he used to work at OpenAI and Tesla.

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          F me if I do / F me if I don’t?

          You don’t have to like him. He’s still regarded as one of the most capable and knowledgeable person in the AI space and a thought leader, so to most his words in that area will be listened to. There are almost zero other persons Apple could have hoped more for an endorsement from.

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            To be honest there’s not really much to go on in his Wikipedia page to judge whether he’s someone who’s opinion I should care about…

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              Hehe no it was actually surprisingly light when I looked it up, sorry for being lazy and just referencing it still.

              He’s just one of the top 3-10 AI scientists in the world. If you want to start up a groundbreaking new AI research company, he’d probably be top 3 on your headhunting list. Anyone of Google, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Tesla etc would hire him asap if he was available, probably as their new chief AI scientist.

              But yeah, my whole title was fairly narrow in only making sense for people who already knew who he is. Maybe it would have made more sense to most if I just said “Top AI scientist endorses AI” or something. Uh, without abbreviating Apple Intelligence to AI I guess. I hate their naming on this.