• @nodsocket@lemmy.world
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    61 year ago

    He is trying to divide users by claiming that a nebulous group is controlling the rest against their will. Classic protest mitigation tactic

    • @spider@vlemmy.net
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      1 year ago

      Indeed; same “divide and conquer” tactics that politicians often use to retain power.

  • @NewEnglandRedshirt@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    History teacher here. I find it incredibly ironic that a guy whose entire livelihood depends on unpaid workers to generate profits for him while he sits on his porch drinking sweet tea comfortable desk chair describes those workers as the “landed gentry.”

  • LUHG
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    41 year ago

    Maybe if they introduced this in good faith months ago people would think it’s a good idea. They reason now is just power hungry admins trying to get their way. Fuck this guy so much.

    • @wakamo@lemmy.ml
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      21 year ago

      I agree because this is actually quite nice to have the ability to vote out power tripping moderators. But they’re only introducing it now because they’re getting desperate. What a waste. This CEO is an idiot.

      Well it’s not like I’m going back anyway since I got perma banned 2 days ago and nuked my account.

    • AFK BRB Chocolate
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      11 year ago

      Honestly, the core point made originally, and that he stated again in this article, makes perfect sense to me: it costs money to run Reddit, which they pay for with ads, and the third party apps make the content available without ads or with ads that go to the app developers. It’s completely reasonable that Reddit would want to get paid for people using their content.

      But the way they rolled it out, the slandering of one of the developers, the ridiculously short time for it, the removal of NSFW content, and especially the draconian prices are just unacceptable.

    • @emptyother@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      I’m curious as to how much money Reddit are spending on their attempts to change the narrative with articles like this.

      • LUHG
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        01 year ago

        Probably one of the reasons why they are not profitable. PR costs.

        • @penguin_ex_machina@lemmy.world
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          21 year ago

          This is the thing that gets me. I’m fine if Reddit wants to diversify revenue, or ask developers to pay a fair share. But the callous disregard for developers, users, moderators, and communities they built is beyond the pale. I don’t know how someone can look at the timeline of events and how Reddit has handled this and think, “this is a company that deserves my money”. Huffman’s comments in the press alone, leaked or not, make him look like a giant d*uche canoe. The moment my saved posts are transferred out I’m gone.

  • @emptyother@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    Oh, they are gonna remove admins by having their own sub vote them out “democratically”. I guess thats better PR than doing it themselves? Sounds like a feature that could easily be misused too, if they do it wrong.

    • @bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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      21 year ago

      Spez: update polls set upvotes=99999 where subreddit=“/r/jailbait”

      Also spez: my people have once again elected me King!

  • Chet_Awesomelad
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    31 year ago

    Huffman said, however, that he’d like some form of revenue-sharing.

    “I would like subreddits to be able to be businesses if they choose,” he said, adding that’s “another conversation, but I think that’s the next frontier of Reddit.”

    Reddit is only going to get worse. I’m glad I jumped ship when I did.

    • BlackCoffee
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      21 year ago

      Another prediction;

      Moderator slots will be up for sale at some point as businesses buy them and start pushing their products/services more aggressively.

      “normal” moderators who agree will get a small % of the profits.

      • icy_mal
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        11 year ago

        a small % of the profits
        But since Reddit isn’t profitable, that means profits are actually negative and they’ll have to pay. If they are profitable, no way there’s any sort of profit sharing. At best, a discounted reddit t-shirt that they’ll be warned against wearing in public due to the additional anti-user policies they’ll be putting in place.

    • Deliverator
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      It’s really a shame that everything good and valuable in the world has to be boiled down to a fucking dollar sign…

  • @penguin_ex_machina@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    If you’re a politician or a business owner, you are accountable to your constituents. So a politician needs to be elected, and a business owner can be fired by its shareholders,” he said.

    Someone get this man a hearing aid, because he’s gone completely tone deaf.

  • Rohbtc
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    21 year ago

    Now he’s going to let users vote out powermods!? What happened when his buddies like gallowboob get voted out? This is going to be hilarious.

  • @spider@vlemmy.net
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    21 year ago

    Huffman said in an interview that he plans to institute rules changes that would allow Reddit users to vote out moderators who have overseen the protest, comparing them to a “landed gentry.”

    Wait, what? Huffman himself is “landed gentry”; moderators are among those who have to do the actual work.

  • geoffervescent
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    He’s about two sentences away from saying the quiet part out loud. If he sees the mods as landed gentry how does he see the average redditor? the average admin team member? The average spez?

  • CynAq
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    11 year ago

    Let’s be honest.

    A lot of us left because we saw the writing on the wall, even if we were a bit ambiguous on the exact details.

    Enshittification to the max and as fast as possible.

    • parrot-party
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      11 year ago

      Yep. It’s not that Reddit is unusable in the official app, it’s that it’s a sign of more shit to come. I don’t use other social media for a reason, Reddit doesn’t have the command over my life that they think they do.

      • @burgersc12@sh.itjust.works
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        The official Reddit app is unusable. Anyone who says otherwise is brainwashed into believing their phone showing an ad every 5 seconds is normal.

  • @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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    With bigger subs, this strategy may actually work. A lot of Redditors just want to scroll, and they want their content. They don’t care how it gets there.

    • @LostCause@lemmy.ml
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      21 year ago

      The new spez company strategy will work because it has been tried and tested in many dictatorships in human history. The elites and workers (mods) in institutions (subs) critical to the state (company) regularly need to be purged of dissenters (protesters) to signal the strength of the dictator and make a coup (change in leadership) seem impossible. This lets those who are against the current course of the state lose their will to fight and pursue other avenues like flight (why I‘m here). It also gives a feeling of safety to those who don‘t care or support, since they need to see less of us dissenters.

    • @RamesesKnibs@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      Yeah I’m seeing that a lot. Floods of comments about how dumb the blackout was and that they just want to browse Reddit. I know r/SquaredCircle pledged to go dark indefinitely and there was a lot of outrage about it. I’ll be very interested to see if it comes back as that was a sizeable subreddit

      • AFK BRB Chocolate
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        21 year ago

        I’ve read that, at times in the past, Reddit has used bots or plants in comment threads to stear the conversation. It makes me wonder if any of that is happening now. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist, but at this point I have very little trust in the Reddit staff.

  • crowsby
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    11 year ago

    That he’s becoming increasingly more catty and loose with the truth by the day speaks to the protest’s effectiveness. Aside from the dropping engagement numbers, the daily deluge of negative press from major media outlets isn’t doing their valuation any favors, and as the person responsible for this decision, he’s feeling the heat more than anyone.

    Also, if they weren’t having any effect, he’d simply maintain the previous party line from before the protests about how the community is free to express itself and protest in any way it sees fit.

    • Nougat
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      Everyone who reads these mass media stories has got to be aware that both the quantity and quality of user interaction are going to impact the profitability and longevity of the site. Reddit already has longevity. It’s trying to position itself as profitable. Seeing the CEO continually giving a big “fuck you” to a large fraction of the userbase (a fraction, yes, but a large one, when you’re talking about quantity and quality of interaction) has got to give investors and potential investors pause.