Russian cybersecurity company and antivirus software provider Kaspersky Lab will start shutting down operations in the United States on July 20.
  • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
    1886·
    5 months ago

    When they’re tied to the Russian government this comes as no surprise. The only thing that surprised me was that it took this long.

    • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
      485·
      5 months ago

      I think most countries spy on their citizens and a lot of the same countries probably don’t want other countries doing the same due to possible unwanted intel leaks in government and corporate sectors.

      • demonsword@lemmy.worldEnglish
        352·
        5 months ago

        I think most countries spy on their citizens

        we should not be OK with that

        • stardust@lemmy.caEnglish
          16·
          5 months ago

          Not saying it is okay. Pointing out that even if hypocritical there’s generally a strategic reason for countries to deter international spying. Would be quite a puzzling decision for any country to provide an open door for other countries to spy on them.

      • MrAlternateTape@lemm.eeEnglish
        4·
        5 months ago

        The funny thing is, that whole thing just proved that the spying didn’t work. Trump was still almost killed. So the spying and mass surveillance did still not prevent that.

        I guess they should stop violating everybody’s privacy, but obviously they don’t care.

  • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    5 months ago

    I would be highly surprised if US antivirus companies aren’t doing pretty much the same as what the US is accusing Kaspersky of doing.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      5 months ago

      I would not be highly surprised if data collected by Kaspersky were often enough shared with American 3-letter agencies, and data collected by American companies with FSB and GRU and SVR.

      It’s like in sci-fi series and such they often show the good guys and the bad guys temporarily uniting against a common threat. Only here the common threat would be some journalists or activists or politicians unpleasant for both, maybe. Or just people of a subculture unpleasant for both even. I’d expect anybody dealing in human rights and such to be a target of such cooperation.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    3797·
    5 months ago

    the consequences of xenophobia. i worked for kaspersky usa from 2011 to 2014 and they were great. it shows how much conspiracy theories take root when people believe eugene has ties with the russian government based on his mandatory service back when it was still the ussr.

    • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
      846·
      5 months ago

      Pretty sure it’s not xenophobic to look at “Headquarters Moscow, Russia” and wonder if there’s any possibility that Putin could enforce something upon the company.

      It’s not like Russia doesn’t do it to us.

      The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) separately accused the US National Security Agency and company Apple of being behind the attack

      It’s fair to hurt Russia’s GDP by choosing not to use Kaspersky [in light of people’s opposition to the war with Ukraine]. That doesn’t mean “xenophobic”.

      Edit: Added bracketed clarification

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
      254·
      5 months ago

      People believe that based on it being legally impossible for such companies to exist in Russia without working with FSB, it’s not a secret.

      EDIT: Not even talking about the educational institution he graduated from, which was called high school of KGB when he did that.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      5 months ago

      Xenophobia is bad when the fear is unfounded

      The fear isn’t unfounded with a known hostile country like Russia, it’s not like after the Cold war they went “ah well now we’re besties”

      Maybe they weren’t having Kas do anything, or maybe they were.

      This is the same country known for jailing peoples families when they don’t cooperate, this is the same country that launched an unprovoked war, this is the same country that has been trying to actively take down the US via political games etc (I could go on forever)

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      10·
      5 months ago

      The conspiracy theory that Russia is the belligerent in a war against Europe and is actively engaged in cyber espionage?