I found it complicated at first (didn’t know which instance “will last”, where to register to not lose anything when instance admin decide to turn it down), but now it’s going good. We are missing mobile apps though.
What’s are your thoughts about Lemmy/kbin?
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I think its great. Joining remote Communities can be a bit iffy but its okay and the UI is a bit janky but that will improve by time I hope :)
It seems to be working well enough. There will be growing pains, but I’m more than willing to live with some bugs & limitations while this all matures and grows. There’s a risk of losing all comment history & whole communities if an instance decided to shut down, but that’s true of centralized sites today. I’ll take the chance on something less centralized that one single asshole corporation can’t screw up.
I expect a small boom of loudly announced instances, that will be essentially unmaintained, half of them will silently disappear while taking users identities with them in less than a year, and the rest spliting the federation in half by implementing ideological blacklists, some properly shutting down when the money runs out, or lawsuits and takedown notices starts to flood in.
Let’s hope I’m wrong.
Every party needs a pooper. That’s why we invited you.
A lot of the communities only seem to have like 50 subscribers. I know a lot of people are exploring options other than Reddit, so I’m confused where everyone is at.
Or maybe I just have weird taste. I am not so interested in shitposting, memes, politics, news; this may be where where everyone is? I’ll give it time to see who trickles in. I like the forum/discussion board style of this as opposed to Mastodon, which is obviously more timeline/feed based, but can feel like a random assortment of things.
On the other hand, since many of the communities are empty, I either do not have interesting topics to yet follow, or am not quite sure where I feel comfortable posting. Somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum, but okay that there is differentiation. Would like to see the fediverse group together (Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, whatever else believes in this approach), as alone there may not be power, but together, maybe something impressive can be made.
Imperial theme looming in the background…
What did you sub to on reddit? I’ve found a music-related instance with just a small handful of people, but I’m already enjoying the feel of it. I hope it turns into something slightly larger, but time will tell. I’d suggest looking for communities that are similar to your tastes and stick around for awhile. The party is early, and I think many are too shy to make a move to break the ice. The more active a community seems, the easier it is for newer people to start sharing as well.
Yeah, I’m not going anywhere. I do like the smaller atmosphere in some ways because it’s less Social media heavy. I’m hoping all the recent chaos initiated by whacky rich CEOs signals the doom of the social media framework that has been predominant for the last ~10 yrs. I’m not saying Lemmy is hopeless. I wouldn’t have bothered to join. I think it’s really cool concept.
I wasn’t a very active redditor, tbh. My account was fairly young. Most of my time was on r/leaves, r/cardistry, r/playingcards, r/wood, and probably a few I haven’t remembered. The dust just needs to settle so I can find the proper places here. So far, a lot of the crafting and hobby themed communities are based upon sharing completed works, where I find I’d much rather see content that is instructional, educational, or problem solving. But I think maybe I’m better served by instructables or something in that regard. Probably also YouTube, but I hate video media. 😵💫
There’s maybe an interesting effect similar to domain name hoarding, so I’m going to watch and see how federated system handles important communities being made but not really invested in. I found a music community that was named well, but the only post was the sole moderator peddling their own album, which felt odd. I imagine a different community with the same name but on a different server instance might become more popular in that case and dwarf those. Natural selection of communities will be fun to observe.
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I’m reading this through Jerboa right now. It’s clearly new and not as mature as RiF (that I prefer) but it’s an excellent start. This platform and community has a lot of potential.
I’d like to see new posts to my subscribed communities, without having to go to each one to check. Maybe it’s there and I just haven’t found it. I can’t stand anything on my phone, so this is only referring to the website.
I think it’s missing a few things. Notably, for me at least, an option to block communities directly in the feed instead of having to go in to the community to do it, and the option to hide posts from the feed. Unless i’ve missed something. It does all remind me of old reddit before it got flooded with users and it started getting filled with memes and joke comments prioritising karma instead of discussion. I’m sure I’m not the only person who noticed that subs on reddit had a critical limit of users, that when reached tarnished the quality of the posts on the sub. I like that all the instances have their own communities which I think will help with that problem. Some instances might not care too much and let the users be joke tellers while others will want to keep quality up. The idea with most instances beeing NSFW-free with a dedicated NSFW instance is a really good one. There’s still so much I need to learn about the fediverse, but the decentralised nature of it all will hopefully keep the money out of it. Overall, I’m enjoying it so far.
I’m in the same boat as you. Now that I’ve spent a day on Lemmy & Kbin I feel much better about using both sites and it’s been a fun experience learning something new.
I personally am treating them as betas so I’m willing to forgive them not being as smooth experiences to browse as I’m used to on Reddit. Also because of this, I’m hesitant at this stage to suggest them to a lot of my friends until more kinks are sorted out.
Actually, I think there is a a dedicated instance for the kinks and other NSFW communities lol
I am very happy to see people trying to use federated apps, it’s a movement back to the old days of internet, when communities and real people make things, not big corporate companies with ad based model bulding sites to collect massive amounts of data.
I like the idea and general functionality, my biggest concern is what happens if the owner of Lemmy.world gets hit by a bus? Eventually you’d lose your account, all your subs, etc. Same goes for any other instance really. It’s pretty much my only reservation at this point.
Yeah I’d like to see a mechanism to move subs and accounts between instances at will. If that also includes the ability to merge subs it’ll fix 90% of the things everyone is worried about.
There is an open issue for adding a mechanism to move instances, people should go vote for it
Honestly, Jerboa in alpha is already better than the official reddit app for me. It’s no TPA reddit app, but the number of contributors (in github) has risen by a lot so I’m expecting/hoping development will pick up and it’ll get better fast.
I appreciate the community the most in here. They’ve been very welcoming and minimal, if any, toxicity.
Using Jerboa too.
Just got started an hour ago and loving it so far, as a boost user I felt right at home.
I still haven’t figured out how to look up a community on Jerboa… The desktop site works well enough, though a little slow.
You can search via the hamburger icon in the bottom left, to the right of the home/house.
Its great, but I still want comment sorting before I start to prefer it over webui.
It’s coming in the next update.
For real? You rock devs! 🤟
Lemmy.ml needs to lose “default” status. I changed servers due to their load and inability to deal with it. They’re practically unusable right now.
They kind of have taken away their default status. They removed lemmy.ml from the list of instances on join-lemmy.org.
I don’t care about what instance will last too much. I’m not that active contributor so if my comments/topics will disappear the world will not end. I always can create a new account on another server.
I chose Lemmy for now because Kbin seems to be not mature enough. I don’t like some background of Lemmy devs that I was reading about, but I’m still not sure what make of it… Does it matter much? I support freedom of speech, and from my perspective people can have opinions very different from mine and still provide great value for community.
I’m currently exploring available communities and subscribing to stuff that I was subscribed on Reddit. Considering creating some communities too, but not sure how that works yet and how much involvement it will need.
Regarding software - using Jerboa. Overall very usable, but there are some UI issues that are irritating.
I don’t like some background of Lemmy devs that I was reading about, but I’m still not sure what make of it…
@pound_heap@lemm.ee – out of interest, what have you read? 👀
Yup, that what other person replied. There was a post on r/privacy which I cannot look up today due to the boycott - it was about Lemmy developers being very radical communists.
The software being open source makes this less concerning, but in case original devs start doing something crazy it will damage the project significantly.
Federation is a largely left leaning, anti capitalist idea for the internet.
Reminds me of the recent drama around Linus Torvald being left leaning. Like, yeah, that’s what Linux is.
It’s not about being left. It’s about praising Mao and Stalin and removing content that criticizes the CCP.
Now I will say, while I ampersonallly a communist, I’m on the libertarian side.
No patience for tankies.
Lemmy developers have communist figures as avatars. They manage the lemmy.ml instance, which other instances tend to defederate.
That should not prevent people from using a platform they don’t manage (Lemmy.world or Beehaw) and they can’t influence in anyway. The code is open source anyway.
I miss downvotes. How do I get a post that I have no interest in to leave my feed?
Other than that, pretty happy.
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Am I missing something I see a downvote button?
It looks like the lemmy.one instance disables the downvote button. My other account on lemmy.ml has it enabled.
Yep you are right, that’s it. I guess I chose the wrong instance. But this is the advantage of the fediverse. It would be nice to have some table that shows the features in each instance so that we could decide which is the right one for us. I just chose based on the direction I got from lemmy.ml.
I do wonder if it’s entirely disabled or just on the default web interface. The Mlem app still gives me the option to downvote things.
I don’t even necessarily disagree with the sentiment of not having downvotes on a platform, but it seems weird to give that up as one server on a federated network, considering anyone from other instances could presumably still downvote posts on here.
Yeah I could log into lemmy.one on mlem and still downvote, so just removed from UI. But it was enough to make me migrate to lemmy.world.
Beehaw also disables downvotes.
I do as well. At least the threads I’ve read through, most of the time reddit was pretty good about downvoting the shit out of a comment that has misinformation or the user is being a dbag (racist, sexist, unnecessarily negative, etc) which was one of my favorite things. I could always count on users to call out those types of comments. It made searching for answers and information so easy and also amusing
Sometimes I would run across a comment that just downvoted purely for their opinion, which was one of the problems it had, but in my opinion (10+ years on reddit), it doesn’t seem nearly as often as people claim
To answer the thread: I like it, I use Jeroba for Android but I’m a long time user of reddit boost which I think is way ahead. I’m not a fan of the website yet but I just think it’s a little confusing
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