• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    And the president and I are working around the clock every day to get that ceasefire deal done and bring the hostages home.

    So where’s the daylight between her and Biden on this?

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      4 months ago

      She’s far closer to the right side of history than Biden.

      If he has his faculties and he’s doing this, this is a huge sin that will stain him throughout history.

      If he doesn’t have his faculties, I’d rather he let more capable people make decisions.

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        She’s far closer to the right side of history than Biden.

        So which of her policies regarding Israel differs from his?

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                All we know about Harris’s conversation with Netayahu is what Harris herself said to the press after the meeting, and she didn’t say anything different from what Biden has said.

                And she wasn’t in the meeting where Biden met with Netanyahu.

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            So she’s totally doing the right thing behind the scenes?

            Yeah, I hear that plenty about Biden.

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              Doing the right thing behind the scenes is the kind of action that lead to the Russian hostage exchange, the satisfaction of the rail worker unions after the railroad strike, the steady increase in student loan relief after SCOTUS shut down the blanket 10k handouts, and the duping of republicans into getting the chips act passed.

              I personally believe in their capacity to do the right thing behind the scenes, just like I believe in the other side’s capacity to do the wrong thing behind the scenes.

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                People who are fine with genocide have no reason to distrust Biden, and no need to see actual daylight between him and Harris. He’s already doing everything centrists want in public.

                And I asked which of her policies differs from Biden’s. Policies are publicly held. Not “Trust me bro it’s totally opposite day behind the scenes.”

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                  And I asked which of her policies differs from Biden’s

                  I was addressing the comment “I hear that plenty about Biden” and pointing out that the Biden administration has taken action behind the scenes, at least on a number of other issues.

                  I also have reason to believe that whatever behind-the-scenes talks are happening concerning Israel are pro-preace, because otherwise the US would be throwing enough military weight behind Israel that Palestine would be finished by now.

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                    Nevertheless, there’s no difference in public policy, and “trust me bro” is not an answer to “how do they differ?” because “trust me bro” was the answer when people were upset at Biden for his unconditional support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

                    I do not trust Biden, and I do not trust his acolytes when they tell me to trust anyone else. Because his acolytes were all in on genocide and still are.

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              That’s what they’ve said from the beginning of this whole mess. Then they’ve sat back and let Israel do whatever the fuck they want

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              4 months ago

              It was reported on.

              Use a search engine. This thread started with an assertion she’s the same. That’s the assertion to prove.

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                  If a concern troll falls in the forest and no one is there to observe it, are they still concerned?

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                    If the conversation was actually private then a reporter wouldn’t know about it

                    But, assuming such conversation happened, what actions and results have come from it?

                    Israel continues to kill children in Gaza without consequence. Netanyahu arrived in the US and was applauded in Congress by (nearly) everyone present (in both parties).

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      So where’s the daylight between her and Biden on this?

      I too would like to know this.

      And if she doesn’t want to say what she would do differently from Biden, I would at least like to hear her say that she’s willing to do things differently from Biden.

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      I realized that what I meant as snark could be interpreted as agreement with the notion that Harris shares the same views on the situation as Biden.