I see a lot of posts about how they uploaded anti-spez stuff onto reddit, or participated in the nsfw spams/john oliver spams. While I get wanting to let it all out, this ultimately keeps up engagement on reddit rather than bringing it down.
The best way to make sure things go your way? Vote with your wallet, or in this case your voice. Don’t speak on reddit. Devote more time helping out the alternatives grow and flourish. And as much as it is a meme, touching some grass can help your mental fortitude.
If you absolutely 100% need to interact with reddit, I suggest installing a redirector addon (such as privacy redirect or… redirector) that can link to a teddit or libreddit instance. Or archiving it with wayback/archive.is/ghostarchive.
The only thing we ever need to do on reddit is encourage migration to further drive down traffic: Dm mods of your fave subs and ask about migration, something as simple as “Hey, I love this community but I no longer use reddit, will you guys be making a community on Kbin or other alternatives? Let me know please, thanks.” will work!! We need more voices encouraging migration!
This is a good idea. At the very least, it’ll put the idea in their brands a maybe bring them along. Worst case scenario, it might spur you to start a community…
Thank you for writing that. I took that exact wording and sent it to some mods. Probably because it was easy and convenient, with the words given to me.
I’m treating the blackout and the aftermath as a worker strike, and treating any mods replacing removed mods as scabs. But more to the point, it’s a strike and I do not cross picket lines. I will not go even to the Reddit front page until the corporation reverses course, accedes to the demands of their unpaid labor and backs the fuck up.
At this point, even if Reddit decides to do a full 180, I’m not going back. The community here is smaller, but it’s better right now. There’s a strong sense of unity and I’ve yet to see anything toxic.
I’m also not planning on telling others about kbin/ Lemmy/ fediverse. I am really appreciating the current self selection bias.
Same. They’ve fucked users over one too many times. Even if they go back to free API usage, I’m still not going back.
It reminds me of what Reddit felt like in the early days, except it feels more diverse and inclusive. It’s kind of the perfect world of what I’d hoped Reddit could become.
It’s inherently superior to Reddit: it’s decentralized (federated), user friendly, light on resources, free and open source and has no shady obscure algorithms and bots tainting discourse.
Agreed, it reminds me of the discussion boards you used to get. I feel like there’s an actual community developing here
I also feel replacement mods are scabs, but I’ve been enjoying all the free time I’ve had lately not browsing reddit. I’m actually getting shit done. I’m ashamed of how much I used that site. I will not go back.
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Agreed. Using reddit’s greatest strength (user base size) against itself is the key to bringing it down.
Plus, overall reddit interaction has barely gone down. Daily visits went from 55 million to 52. That’s a drop in the bucket.
One thing I learned a long time ago is that internet people just don’t give a shit about doing what is right, only doing what is easy.
So yes, spreading news about Lemmy is more important than trying to take down reddit by not posting.
They will take it down themselves. They are pissing off the mods and the users that stayed. It will just get more corporate as time goes on and more and more of the content will become restricted to appease the shareholders.
The experience will just get shitter as time on. They’ll have to keep changing things to aim for yearly profits that they won’t hit and they’ll probably cycle through a few CEOs . Lots of addicts will stay on it glued to the feed of bullshit. They might try to “innovate” with some infinite scroll or some other bullshit but its well past its peak and its now on the slow decline
52 million from 55 million is actually a significant percentage. Yes it’s still a big number, but it’s pretty significant.
That is a over 5% drop, that is far larger than I expected, safe to assume that the 10% of users who add 90% of the content are in that number.This is far more dramatic than I imagined.
Yeah, I think each time reddit takes action against moderators, it gives people more reason to seek other alternatives
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I haven’t used Reddit since the protest began aside from dropping a pinned post on my profile linking to my profile on Kbin. I’ve seen this movie before and I know how it plays out. Reddit won’t go away any time soon, but it’s going to be slowly hollowed out while most of the active users migrate to Lemmy/Kbin. I have no doubt in my mind that this community has enough tailwind at this point to thrive.
I haven’t been on Reddit since the blackout started, and at this point, I have no intention of ever being on Reddit again. And it’s been good for me, to be honest. Been reading an actual book again, for the first time in longer than I’d like, been going for walks when I’m bored instead of mindlessly scrolling.
So can confirm - go touch grass, go to your local library! It’s good for you, and bad for Reddit. Win-win!
Reddit is dead for me once Rif stops working next month anyway, but I’ve stayed off since the 12th. I’ll check in towards the end of the month to say my goodbyes to a small, private sub I’m in, explain why and where I’m going, and download/backup anything I’d like to save. Then that’s it.
Screw spez. As long as he’s in charge, I’m not going back.
Exactly my stance. Someone gave me reddit gold for changing all my comments, I sent them a message informing them about kbin. Everything I’ve been doing on Reddit has been cleaning house before I say my final goodbye once RIF closes its curtain.
I don’t care about protesting, it doesn’t work. For me, stopping reddit means to stop opening it out of habit. I find myself automatically opening social media out of habit. So instead of having Reddit be that habit response, I’m training myself to replace it with Mastodon and Lemmy. It’s a bit hard since I’m missing a lot content, but it’s significantly easier then during the Twitter migration.
User revolts do work. When Digg pushed that horrible update people just bombarded Digg with Reddit links. It’s one of the most effective community migrations of a platform I’ve ever seen.
Reddit killed the trust I had for it not even porn will bring me back and I’ve avoided reddit search answer like the plague on Google.
avoided reddit search answer like the plague on Google
i’m hoping that the “privacy redirect” browser add-on OP linked to will help make that easier! then, if it works properly, you should be able to click reddit links with peace of mind knowing that you’ll be taken to a different unaffiliated domain instead, giving spez and his corpo hogs 0 traffic
Exactly. Been using this website for now as a replacement for Reddit, and not really using Mastodon much. On Mastodon you have to refollow a bunch of people, Twitter still works for me as a microblogging platform, despite being owned by someone I do not respect in any way.
Yup. Haven’t been back since last Sunday. Which was surprisingly easy given I’d been a near-daily user for nine-ish years. I miss very little. I might log in one last time before the end of the month to trash my account.
Stepping away is sort of my plan at the moment.
I’m the solo mod of an 11K subscriber sub who posted most of the content. I took the sub private for the first 48 hours of the protest, then polled everyone to see if they wanted to keep going.
Only a third were in favor. The other two-thirds were “No” or “I don’t understand and/or don’t care”.
I posted links to equivalent places in lemmy/kbin/discord to see if there would be any kind of migration to follow me here.
So far I have exactly one follower on lemmy, and 5 new members on discord (none of whom have interacted at all).
For now, I’m going to continue to monitor my reddit sub (to keep things in order) but will only be posting things in the fediverse. I just cant’, in good conscience, keep contributing to “my” sub in the current environment. It makes me sad, to be honest; I felt a certain amount of pride in what I (we) accomplished over there.
We’ll see what happens going forward.
I’m in a similar boat, except I barely used to post anything at all - ironically to avoid the toxic backlash that usually happened whenever I did, and mostly hid out in the comments - and barely anyone wants to leave. They could (not) care less. And I’m trying to see it from their POV: they just don’t know, and MUCH more importantly, don’t want to.
The house is burning down, and they’re pulling the blankets over their heads. There’s not much that can be done about it perhaps. Don’t Look Up.
The responses are all “it won’t affect anything anyway” (it already has), “nobody noticed the first blackout” (uh… not true), “this isn’t a protest sub, lets get back to it” (why would such a thing even exist in the first place? strikes happen wherever people happen to WORK, when they are NEEDED).
But now I’m finally starting to see the difference between people who mod - i.e. offer their hard work to others - vs. people who do not. It’s not as bad as I’m making it sound - it’s sheer human nature, and some people have more capacity than others, like if you are in med school then you probably don’t have time to mod a sub:-). But there is a difference, b/t forward-thinking people and people who wait for things to eventually trickle down to them. I wish I could help convey that thought to them, but… I already have, and now it’s up to them to choose to receive it, or not.
I agree with your premise, but not all of the details. I believe that if you don’t want to be on Reddit as it is, simply don’t be on Reddit. Depart gracefully, don’t burn bridges, don’t troll or spam. It doesn’t help anyone - your mental health included.
In many ways, I do believe that taking the high road is best when there’s an issue like this. I don’t mind being on Reddit, or kbin, or Lemmy, or Mastodon. The only social I’m never on is Twitter. I don’t see a need to be there; so I’m not. For my own part, I didn’t mind the 2-day blackout - I mind the spam, the NSFW from unexpected sources, etc. If the answer is that I need to stand up and start taking part in moderating communities to ensure that the content I want to see is what’s there, I’ll decide then whether I want to do so or not. I’m annoyed by the possibility of the app I prefer (RedReader) standing on shaky ground from now on with an “accessibility” label hung on it. I’m not a fan of ads, at the best of times, I block most advertising domains, and usually turn off ECMAScript on sites (or at least I’m picky about what is allowed to run). I’d prefer to turn it off altogether, but that’s not an option at the moment with the way the web is going.
As I’ve said before, I do not believe there’s a single active mod of a large community who doesn’t know whether or not they want to lead a community on Reddit right now. If they want to lead a community, but not on Reddit, there’s the various fediverse options, JCInk, Freeforums, NeoCities, or whatever - those people could even file an RFD and have it put up on Usenet. If they want to lead a community on Reddit, that means abiding by the rules, policies, and behaviors which have been set down. I have no problem with, say, r/piracy moving to their own Lemmy, and I’m honestly in favor of the wide adoption of alternate social media (though I worry what onerous monetization will be forced upon us when the costs get too high and each server can only afford customers, not paying users - we know ads won’t work, because of so many of us using adblockers).
If you want to be part of a community specifically on Reddit now, then be a part of that community on Reddit. If you want to be part of a community, but you’re ambivalent about Reddit, rejoin or rebuild it elsewhere. Don’t make things worse for the people who make a different decision. That just makes them become reactionary and defensive, and likely they’ll end up opposing you, and whatever it is you stand for (which in this cause could actively hurt fediverse participation).
Thanks for this, I feel like there’s a lot of black-and-white thinking going on here. It seems like the only options presented are “burn it down!” or “you’re a scab”.
“take your protests and picket signs to that dark corner over there where you wont bother the normies”
I’m exclusively using Lemmy and it’s taken the place of boost on my home screen. I also exclusively open reddit in Google web cache and archive.org when I need a ressource that’s within the years of reddit content. Fuck reddit and fuck spez.
Honestly, we’re a minority of users and if we just left the only thing Reddit would notice is that posts were lower quality, and it’s possible they wouldn’t notice that at all. Going out loudly draws publicity to Reddit alternatives, and I think that harms them more in the long term.
On July 1st my reddit usage will be zero. Until then I take a peek once a day or two to post http://join-lemmy.org where appropriate.
This is me , I logon once a day search api protest and add lemmy positive posts and maybe a lemmy post in one of my fav small subs. about 5% of my social media time. I expect to stop in july
